we need you to help us win wisconsin. if we win wisconsin, we win this election. god bless you, and make god protect our troops. thank you all so very much. thank you. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ ["the weight" plays] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ life"to get you inonto my plays] ♪ ♪ >> republican candidate mitt romney and his running mate also returned to the campaign trail following last night's debate. they stopped at a rally in lancaster, ohio for their first postseason appearance together. this is about 35 minutes. ♪ [cheers and applause] we have to win, don't we? it is too important to our families, to our communities, to our country. we cannot afford another four years of barack obama. now, we all want to win, and we have to win. let me ask you something today. are you planning to do everything you possibly can in the next 25 days to ensure a victory here in the key state of ohio? [cheers] are you willing to make phone calls for mitt? are you willing to go door to door for mitt? are you willing to put up one of these signs in your yard for mitt? i need you to early vote. we need to bank t

that's why i think -- frankly i think having -- it's going to help us win wisconsin because it's pulled the wool back on what paul ryan's ideas are. host: our guest is with us. talk about wisconsin, a battleground state. shannon is from gillette, wisconsin on the democrats line. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i just wanted to say something about what had been -- the previous gentlemen you were talking about. he was talking about oil tracking like it was a good thing. i'm a chemistry teacher both at the high school level and college level. some of the jobs that they are going to create are going to be environmental quality jobs because that gas tracking when they use 250 chemicals in a proprietary blend we are not to know about, permanently disabled the quack whicher ifs underneath -- aquifers underneath that they are tracking. i don't like the idea we have to choose gas or water. i need to choose water every time. what i really like this gentleman speak to me about, how obama got crippled because i don't know a lot of people in my irea understand that. host: our guest

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that's why i think -- frankly i think having -- it's going to help us win wisconsin because it's pulledaul ryan's ideas are. host: our guest is with us. talk about wisconsin, a battleground state. shannon is from gillette, wisconsin on the democrats line. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. i just wanted to say something about what had been -- the previous gentlemen you were talking about. he was talking about oil tracking like it was a good thing. i'm a chemistry teacher both at the high school level and college level. some of the jobs that they are going to create are going to be environmental quality jobs because that gas tracking when they use 250 chemicals in a proprietary blend we are not to know about, permanently disabled the aquifers underneath that they are tracking. i don't like the idea we have to choose gas or water. i need to choose water every time. what i really like this gentleman speak to me about, how obama got crippled because i don't know a lot of people in my area understand that. host: our guest is referring to the pledge that primarily republicans as

we need you to help us win wisconsin, because if we win wisconsin, we win this election. bless you, and they got to may god protect our troops. thank you. thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we have more coverage later this afternoon when republican presidential candidate and running mate speak at a campaign rally in lancaster, ohio. that is why this afternoon at 5:40 on c-span. watch and engage with c-span as the presidential candidate's face off in the second of their three debates. the preview begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern with the town hall debates beginning at 9:00. at 10:30, the post-debate coverage and your opportunity to react as we take your calls, females, and -- emails and tweets. follow online at c-span.org. c-span is bringing you live coverage of debate between now and november 6. tonight we will take it a california as the congressman faces the democratic challenger. it is the only televised debate for the thirty sixth congressional district. on wednesday, republican resident -- john gregg and libertarian candidate face of to be indiana's next governor. this debate is court

win, where barack obama is still leading, still leading wisconsin and iowa and nevada. that is his fire wall, and unless romney can break through that he won't win the election. >> his fire wall used to include florida and virginia and they're not talking about that as fire wall states anymore with romney ahead in florida. the very fact that michigan and pennsylvania, which obama carried by 16 points and 10 points four years ago -- have gotten close i think has to be an indication that the affluent suburbs, oakland, macomb, livingston in michigan, have been moving towards romney in a significant way, and i think that the democrats are giving you static analysis there. and i think there may be a dynamic at work here. the affluent suburbs are places that people generally tend to turn out in large numbers, and we've seen signs that republicans have more enthusiasm this year. i think one reason ohio is closer is that affluent suburban counties are only an eighth of the statewide votes and a warsmer michigan. >> the romney campaign is saying they're making major investment in ohio, time and money. are they making -- taking a gamble by making a bet on ohio, that if they lose, they will

well but taking ohio out of the scenario, if obama were to win wisconsin and iowa, as well as nevada where he's favored currently, that would leave us colorado. if romney wins florida, ohio and virginia, you would be sitting at 266 for romney, 263 for obama and we could be up very late on election night looking to see what happens out west in colorado, 1:00, 2:00 in the morning for us to be able to say who the president of the united states is. >> you have right now paul ryan campaigning in ohio and focused so much on ohio for obvious reasons. the auto bailout affecting white middle class workers in that state. the union issue, as well. here's colorado and i think you referred to it as the rodney dangerfield if some of our younger audience members remember. the no respect state as he was in the come eddic world. >> that's right. colorado, you know, in that respect, it's been getting no respect because it's in one way hard place to travel to and out west so a lot of the eastern time zones maybe don't pay as much attention to colorado but telling people to pay attention because it's important. i mean, the fact is obama could win witho

win, where barack obama is still leading, still leading wisconsin and iowa and nevada. that is his fire wall, and unless romney can break through that he won't win the election. >> his fire wall used to include florida and virginia and they're not talking about that as fire wall states anymore with romney ahead in florida. the very fact that michigan and pennsylvania, which obama carried by 16 points and 10 points four years ago -- have gotten close i think has to be an indication that the affluent suburbs, oakland, macomb, livingston in michigan, have been moving towards romney in a significant way, and i think that the democrats are giving you static analysis there. and i think there may be a dynamic at work here. the affluent suburbs are places that people generally tend to turn out in large numbers, and we've seen signs that republicans have more enthusiasm this year. i think one reason ohio is closer is that affluent suburban counties are only an eighth of the statewide votes and a warsmer michigan. >> the romney campaign is saying they're making major investment in ohio, time and money. are they making -- taking a gamble by making a bet on ohio, that if they lose, they will

politics, so when wisconsin native paul ryan was asked today who would win next month's wisconsin-0 state game, he was sure not to offend either swing state. >> if we're doing better, they'll beat use a better record, we'll bett them. that's how it goes between the badgers for a buckeyes? how's that for an answer? >> it's a terrible answer. >> we'll see if that moves the needle. >>> in a battle to control the senate, every seat counts. republicans are trying to hold onto one their own and maintain the shot at majority status. creative correspondent mike emanuel looks at nevada. >> reporter: they've led the country in highest unemployment and foreclosures, and the senate race has focused on which candidate would be better for the middle class. heller was appointed to the seat last year following john ensign's resignation and is trying to win a full term. heller is critical of senate dysfunction. >> i make this argument every time. we haven't passed a budget for three years and unemployment in nevada goes higher, paychecks are worth less, and we see it every day. >> the real clear politics average of recent polls considers this race a tossup with heller up three points or r democrat

in two thousand and ten midterms and then winning again in the wisconsin recall election earlier this year make no doubt about it the cards are stacked against us but now is not the time to despair now is the time to get active that's because organized people just secured a significant victory not here in the united states yet but just north in canada and we can learn a lot from how they want. since last year students in quebec have been taking to the streets to hold massive rallies against proposed college tuition hikes the government of tried to squash the demonstrations of passing emergency laws known as bill seventy eight that would have restricted protests on campuses and outlawed any demonstrations by more than fifty people who didn't have proper permits erode and backing down more students went into the streets they had a clear goal and message they weren't leaving the streets until the tuition hikes were reversed the protest went global and took on the name of the maple spring in the students won. last week with rex incoming from here and now she is canceling plans for the proposed two issue hikes the incoming government will also repea

wisconsin. i think we've started to see that. so i think having paul ryan in the ticked is going to help us win because it's pulled the wool back on ryan's ideas really are. host: our guest is with us to talk to you about wisconsin as a battleground state. shannon from jill et, wisconsin. joins us on our democrat's line. good morning. caller: thanks for take mig call. i just wanted to say something about what had been said with the previous gentleman that you were talking to when he was talking about oil fracking like it was a good thing or natural gas fracking. i'm a chemistry teacher both at the high school level and college level. some that they're going to be create are quality jobs. when they use the blend that we're not allowed to know about disabled the acfers under the rocks they're fracking i don't like the idea that we have to choose between gas and water because i need to choose water every time. but what i would really like this gentleman to speak to me about is to nor queth pledge and what that did to obama and how it may have crippled him because i don't know if a lot of people in my area understand that. host: and o

270 a little votes in a hail mary pass manner, using minnesota, pennsylvania, and michigan, because they're not going to win states like ohio of wisconsinthink both theories have a little bit of merit. republicans have a tendency staff and have over the last couple cycles pimco to states to sort of try to expand the map a little late. i remember dick cheney visiting hawaii in the days before the 2004 presidential contest. he visited new jersey. george w. bush visited california in the waning days of 2000, to put two very democratic states in play. this is a combination between a try to get the obama campaign to spend money somewhere they would not otherwise or it is a real move towards expanding the map. the interesting thing about this year is this is the first time since 2004 that we have had a normal election. in 2006 it was a democratic way. 2008 was a democratic way. 2010 was republican. so we don't know what a normal electorate looks like. we don't know the racial makeup or the age makeup. polls all over the place. both parties right now are using polling models that are dramatically different from each other. i sat down with of t

win the white house without it? we're ask the state's republican governor, john kasich. also joining us, wisconsin's republican governor, scott walker, and colorado's democratic governor, john hickenlooper. analysis on what will tip the scales in this historically tight presidential race. from our roundtable, from msnbc, rachel maddow, "new york times" columnist, david brooks, "washington post" columnist, e.j. dionne, former ceo of hewlett-packard, now vice chair of the national republican senatorial committee, carly fiorina and our political director and chief white house correspondent, chuck todd. >>> good morning, on this sunday, as if it weren't enough to have an incredibly tight race, we now have inclement weather that is bearing down on the east coast. hurricane sandy, a super storm as described, and this could affect more than 50 million people along the east coast. we've got all of this covered, including the political ramifications of the storm in the coming days as we are just nine days to go until the election. i want to go live first to asbury park on the new jersey shore where nbc's al

wisconsin in their column. for republicans, you know, if they don't win ohio they have to put together a combination of states that really does need to include wisconsin. jenna: very interesting. gives ushe more reason to watch, craig. great to have you back on the program. we look forward to having you back with us. >> anytime. jon: now this fox news alert. lines at the unemployment office getting a teeny bit shorter. new claims for jobless benefits falling 23,000 from the week before to 369. our next guest is a small business owner who had the chance to ask president obama about the economy and politics two years ago. >> i'm too busy working to understand how to tell you how so fix the economy. so what i like to do is elect an official and send him to washington and have all you smart twice figure that out. returning to done's question we didn't get all the way through, a young person can recognize it and i certainly recognize trying to build a team in small business. >> right. >> is there hope for us returning to civility in our discourse, to healthy legislative process? to something i can trust so as i strap on the boots tomorrow morning i know you guys got it under control? jon: s

wisconsin will play ohio state in a football game. i want you to tell the people of ohio who's going to win that game. >> they -- they spoil -- they spoiled us last year, we spoiled them the year before, and jen and i were at that game. it really depends on who has the better record is going to lose, because that's what happens. >> who wins, congressman? who's going to win? >> it will depend on who's got the better record. it always depends on who's got the better record. it's in madison this year. home field advantage works well. but if we're doing better, they'll beat us, and if they have a better record, we'll beat them. that's always how it goes between the badgers and the buckeyes. how's that for an answer? >> it's a terrible answer. >> badgers, don't you feel the love? no home team loyalty whatsoever. and that wasn't the only sports-related mess that ryan found himself in today. on a visit to the cleveland browns practice facility, ryan took a moment to praise, praise rookie quarterback brandon whedon. ryan recalled whedon playing for oklahoma state. he told the story pointing at backup quarterback colt mccoy. according to the clevelan

win the electoral votes. talk to us about this. >>pat: what is happening, look at yellow, ladies and gentleman. we see, now, that wisconsinas in solid for obama is now undecided, so is pennsylvania. maine has moved to leaning. wisconsin is a battleground state. shear my theory. we are seeing faster movement in states that had no add veer tieing and have been left aside. that means the problem with ohio could be this $49 million spent by obama. and how early the obama ground organization was there. it could be that certainly the velocity in michigan and pennsylvania is faster and even in minnesota, as well, than in ohio. that could mean he could make a different combination. >>gregg: just do point out, obama drops down to 201 from 257 and romney is up to 191. congressman, you are a real political pro, what is now being referred to by even the "washington post" as benghazi gate and the white house and the president's response to it, which has been criticized, here is what murdoch in the "new york post" said the government that leaked secrets to make the president look tough, oozes falsehoods to keep him from looking weak. i

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wisconsin and vegas. all very key to winning the election. you have romney in florida today in tampa just the last hour. tell us about the tone that both of these men have to strike. the president tomorrow and the kind of tone that we are hearing from mitt romney today. >> you know, i think when big things happen in the country, the tone -- the sense that the presidential campaign seems to get a little smaller, suzanne, because this has been a very negative, very nasty, very small campaign, if you ask me, while the issues could not be larger. the state of the economy being one of them, and then when you have a natural disaster on top of the serious issues that we ought to be discussing about the future of the country. i think what you are probably going to see is a tone change. now, i would also say to you that at the end of a campaign is usually a time when you do see a shift in tone because people start making their closing arguments, and you don't ever want to end a presidential campaign on a negative, nasty note. you are going to be running negative ads, sure, but the candidate himself will try and move to

us from all 11 states and gray are too close to call. of these battleground states, look at wisconsin appear. wisconsin is one of them. in 2008, the president had no problem winningsixteen points over senator mccain. but what you are seeing over the next couple of days, joe biden has scheduled two events in wisconsin for today alone. earlier today, the white house announced that president obama will be in wisconsin this coming week. in fact, early next week. if that schedule holds, you have to ask your questions. if you follow the candidates, where are they going and why? wisconsin was in play before paul ryan was on the under card of the vp vp vp nominee, before scott walker, republican governor, was the only governor in the history of the country to win a recall vote. these 10 electoral votes, as you gain in the system and try to map and figure out who is going to win where -- late in the night on november 6, wisconsin could play date in the 10 electoral votes. martha, back to you. martha: very interesting. bill: also, we are keeping an eye on the storm. it could be the most dangerous than 25 years. two storms are about to come together as a super storm. deadly

wisconsin will play ohio state in a football game. i want you to tell the people of ohio who is going to win that game. >> they spoiled us last year. we spoiled them the year before, and janna and i were at that game, it really depends on who has the better record is going to lose because that's what happens. >> who is going to win? tell the people of ohio. >> it depends on who has the better record. it always depends on who has the better record. it's -- it's in madison this year, home field advantage works well, but if we're doing better, they will beat us and if they have a better record they will beat them. that's how it always goes between the badgers and the buckeyes. how is that for an answer? >> that's a terrible answer. that's okay. i'm out of time. you're lucky on that one. congressman ryan, thanks for your time this morning. >> thanks, man. >> who new the toughest question would be about sports. let's get the morning's other top stories from natalie. >>> good morning, everyone. a deadly shooting at one of the busiest border crossings between the united states and canada has investigators searching for a motive. officials

some sort of new hail marys when using minnesota and michigan and pennsylvania because they will not win a state like ohio or they're not going to win a state like wisconsin i think both theories have a little bit of merit. republicans have a tendency, have had a tendency over the last couple cycles to go to states to try to expand the map a little late. i remember dick cheney visiting hawaii in the days before the 2004 presidential contest. both cheney visited new jersey, george w. bush visited california into 2000, the waning days before 2000 trying to put to very democratic states somewhere and play. so this is some kind of combination between a head fake torch try to get the obama campaign to spend money somewhere where they wouldn't otherwise, or it's sort of a real move towards expanding the map. the interesting thing about this year by the way is that this is the first time since 2004 that we've had a normal election. remember, 2006 was a democratic way. 2008 was a democratic way. 2010 was republican way so we don't really know what a norman electorate looks like. we don't know sort of the racial makeup or the age make a. this is why you're seeing

us. we can hold ohio, the polls are still better there than other states. if we can hold wisconsin and there's traditionally democratic state and we can either get nevada or iowa, we wine against the clock now. can they hold on to these things before romney overtakes them? >> david, i wanted to ask you, take us back to the white house and the dynamic between the first bush/kerry debate and the second. was there any lesson there? >> well, i think there was a recognition they lost that first debate. there was recovery, but i don't think that was bush's shining moment. i think that 2004 turned on the issue of terrorism, particularly that bin laden tape, and i think the perception that the chief problem that the country faced that was another attack and the ongoing threat from terrorists was something that more or less the administration had solved. again the perception, i'm not saying what the reality was, but that was the political perception and punctuated by that bin laden tape. one other comment about going to sam's point. there is certainly a recognition, i think, both campaigns that the obama team can grind this out, demographically. and in certain states, but i ta