. >> usae susan, you're shaking head. >> yeah. we had over a hundred people show up because they so appreciated him and he made their day also. >> did you pick up any moves, cody? >> do you think we could see some of your awesome moves that are so inspiring to so many people? >> sure. >> oh, yeah, he's grooving. >> there he is. >> it's the time of the season to get skating and sliding, just not like this hopefully. this is on a freeway in minnesota. >> oh, boy. >> very icy. traffic is moving at a pretty solid pace, you want to be extra careful. at some point the driver of this car, he doesn't seem to be driving terribly aggressively. before you know it, changes lanes, misses of car -- >> recovers. >> recovers and keeps going. >> in is minnesota. it's super cold there. >> this driver recovered amazingly well. >> that's crazy. >> i planned that, that's what you say. >> my windshield was frozen oaf in the back. i just wanted to see what was behind me. >> right. has found a beautiful stretch, beautiful slope, fresh snow. up can see ev

let's bring in the monday gaggle, "usa today" susan page, and perry bacon jr. starting with health care, i can't believe we went an entire week without a health care feedi feeding frenzy -- >> so let's start -- >> no, if you're at the white house, is it a sense of relief, or people are saying, this enrollment is happening and a sign that enrollment is working? >> there's been a slight sense of relief at the white house, since they hit the december 1st deadline, and things seem to be better. are things working better? better than they were. are they working as well as they should be? these isolated, or not so isolated examples, suggests there's still problems with the system, and the administration is getting rid of the main contractor on healthcare.gov, another sign that all is not perfectly well. >> right. susan, it does seem as if they now have a plan going forward, and how to deal with the enrollment. i guess the next step for the process, as far as the public's perception is concerned, is the enrollment working? is the demographics of the enroles, are they

now, "the new york times" political reporter jonathan martin, a native virginian, and "usa today" bureau chief susanage, of course, "usa today" headquartered in virginia. localized here a little bit. we have a statement from the chief political strategist from christie about cuccinelli, and -- $8 million, a significant portion of which was raised by governor christie. we can set that aside. this fall from grace. what's interesting here about both christie and mcdonnell, and christie can fight to live another day, he has a political problem, not a personal problem, but it sort of -- this isn't an ideological or policy issue that's brought these guys down. it's a personal character flaw. >> well, in fact, just the opposite of policy, these were two politicians who'd figured out a way to win in the obama era as republicans, and in states, by the way, that obama carried twice. >> yeah. >> and they were seen in '09 sand '10 as sort of guides, you know, models to follow for how to succeed as republican in this sort of tough new era. and they've been brought, you know, down, certainly, in the mcdonnell cas

"usa today's" bureau chief susan page, and of course, chris matthews.t to come out. he's going to be speaking about the economy as he shakes hands and gets ready to go up to the podium. quickly, susan, what we're hearing from him is what the agenda is. this is teeing up income inequality and the state of the union in two weeks. >> that's right. and a big speech for him. he needs to recapture a little momentum going into the state of the union, going into this new year. >> and here's the president. >> thank you so much. thank you. it is good to be back in north carolina. [ cheers and applause ] if you have a seat, go ahead and have a seat. if you don't have a seat, don't. it is good to be here at the home of the wolfpack. i want to thank your chancellor, randy woodson, for the introduction and the great work he's doing on behalf of students all across the system. i want to recognize my secretary of energy who is here. give him a big round of applause. he's doing good work. your governor is here. the mayor of raleigh nancy mcfarland. [ applause ] the mayo

chris cillizza and usa today washington bureau chief, susan page. on the "washington post" reporter, they have been all over this story for months and months as this investigation progressed. let's talk about that plea deal. they pleaded not guilty it will and won't appear in court until next summer with all of the pretrial maneuvering that's going to take place. but why is your reporting why is the "washington post" reporting that he rejected that deal, because he believes he's not guilty or they have a different strategy? >> first of all, thank you for the acknowledgement, i would say it's roz who has done the vast majority of reporting and done amazing work. i think the answer is what you said and its kind of in front of your face politically speaking, which is bob mcdonnell didn't want to plead to anything. and the not guilty plea affirms that but i think it is easy to look at the gifts and say, golly, that -- he really overstepped the line. and politically speaking, no matter what happens politically, he is in a very bad place. legally, remembe

. >> ben, you may have written or rather read susan page's column today in "the usa today." basically she's saying what a difference a year can make, more sweeping, more forceful. what surprised you in the speech? >> well, you know, i think unfortunately last year was largely overtaken by events. you had profound events like newtown, but you also had the issues of the irs and snowden that really focused the administration on other issues. i thought what you saw last night was a return to the themes of the re-election campaign, which are the issues that the american people are centrally focused on, restoring economic security for the middle class, making parents feel like their children can have a brighter economic future than their own economic future, and i think one of the president's messages in taking this on the road is that change doesn't just come from washington, that states and cities and others can take action even if congress won't pass some of these initiatives. >> did you think his energy harkened to former years before, 2013, chris matthews of hardball was sayi

susan, first to you, you interviewed her for "usa today" and drew your conclusions. let's look at what she had to say on abc today. >> i'm going to fight this until the very end. and it's not right. and it's not fair. and i'm going to do everything i can. >> susan, you spent time with her, how did you feel about guilt, innocence, the process? >> i spent a good part of a day with her last spring when she was beginning to put out her book. not for me to say if she's guilty or innocent. if you look at the court record, she probably would not have been convicted in an american court with the evidence and with the questions about the handling of the evidence that have been raised with italian authorities. when i interviewed her she said she wanted to go back and defend herself against these charges and clearly her mind is changed by this disappointing verdict from this italian court. >> chris, this will ultimately end up on john kerry's desk because it's a long legal process of extradition but ultimately it will be a decision where he will have some discretion as to wheth

usa. they don't want it or are imbev lant. >> i want you to talk about this, david. u.s. national security advisor susan rice and secretary of state john kerry clashed on the issue much when powerful players don't agree, how does that complicate policy issues. >> there was fairly public indications that secretary kerry and national security advisor susan rice had a different perspective on whether egypt was for wasn't moving towards democracy under what effect that should have. it's the job on the president to resolve those issues among senior staff. it seems to me that the white house in this case at least has made the right decision, which is to work with congress, to change the law and make american policy consistent with our own laws and consistent with our own national security interests in continuing to support the egyptian government. >> could the change of policy create unintended consequences. we'll look how policy has done that in the past. we'll talk about it all when we come back. welcome back. we are talking about the future of u.s. policy in egypt, and how aiding the military-appointed gov

usa has formally joined the fight on hillary's behalf. >>> and let me finish tonight with why this huckabee remark could be the stopper to a republican sweep. this is "hardball," the place for politics. lovely read susan. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ male announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. >>> we may be heading toward another showdown over the debt ceiling. the treasury secretary jack lew told house secretary john bain they're the debt ceiling needs to be raised by late february. boehner's office responded by saying republicans would demand something in return, because in their words, a clean debt ceiling increase simply won't pass the house. what remains to be seen is why republicans, who have recovered in the poll since last year's shutdown and now have some political wind at their backs would want another unpopular and unnecessary government shutdown? we'll be right back. ngestion, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter. whoo! ♪ oh! nice! great! [ laughs ] a shot like that c