her job is to promote usaid.t is a life lived out of a suitcase, spending thanksgiving in pakistan, not with her family. she says there is no question the rewards are plentiful. >> every day, handing words to someone, knowing what we are discussing and how it impacts someone's life in a very dramatic way is humbling. i'm happy to be able to do it. >> she is just back from haiti responding to the cholera outbreak, hoping to have thanksgiving with her family this year. she says the goal of usaid is to work themselves out of a job and that local agencies will eventually be able to take care of their own disaster response. >> extremely impressive. >> we have a big trouble they coming up on wednesday it looks like the rain will hold off. on pennsylvania avenue, the wind will settle down. the white house is quiet and a little fog is expected as the night wears on. 48 degrees in gaithersburg. temperatures about 10 degrees cooler than yesterday. middelburg at 48 degrees. george washington university at 53. the high tempe

. >> i've been a contractor for usaid in iraq. was very interested in your discussion of the role of the surrounding countries as a collective head of state. i wish you could elaborate on that because i've actually not seen anything written in depth on that in any of the think tanks or the newspapers. can you elaborate and talk about maybe who are the stronger neighbors and their connections to a particular political parties and leaders in iraq? >> i can elaborate a little bit. i mean, you know, i think the absence of a true head of state, you know, i don't think it's something that people just forgot or didn't do. i just think the way the system was set up, it didn't provide any and -- what happened is the political positions right from the get-go became a part of the negotiation of power-sharing. so remember, the symbolic president during the iraq government council time was actually a sunni, but eventually when they sorted it all out in the thing occurred. but as i mentioned, just my opinion, that when the person occupying what

usaid did a similar audit one year prior on the kabul power plant. do you know what the funding for usaid had done in terms of their general inspector work in afghanistan over the last five, six years? do you know what their total funding has been? >> funding for usaid in terms of its operations in afghanistan, i do not know. >> $10 million. do you see what they've are covered for $10 million taxpayer investment? 149 million. and you have received $46 million, is that correct, general? >> 46.2 million. >> and you'll have recovered a $.2 million? >> at this point in time, yes. >> can you understand as a matter of select those numbers is hard for me to reconcile the notion that a lack of funding has been your problem? >> senator, the recoveries that we invest our experienced our small. but the full measure of the outcome of audits and investigations that are under way are -- that full measure has not thus far been determined. at our forthcoming numbers will be much larger and the numbers we submitted to the city and there will up of work that the feder

and of course, usaid and of course the u.s. embassy has a permanent presence there and a very large embassy and they fall -- many of them have been working on this as well. >> usage are prepared to help under 25,000 people. you know roughly how many people have taken that up already know for what. -- i mean, when will you know whether or not you've got enough to help everybody? >> the 125 was there that we could help people very quickly. as i said, we've got more stops in miami. we've got more stops available to us and fema and of course it can also get manufacturers to work overtime to keep sending stuff in. i don't know yet how much of -- how much of the preposition supplies were going to need. that's the kind of information i hope to go to share with you in debt to be able to share with you in days to come. right now our teams are out finding out who is well aware and then they will turn to those stockpiles, work out the transporting of the stuff they are. so it is too soon to answer. but we never intended for 125,000 at the

the state department, defense department, usaid and inspector general for iraq reconstruction. they will share their lessons learned and what needs to happen going forward. iraq and afghanistan has not been pretty. that's why it's so important that we have aggressive, independent, quality oversight with hundreds of billions of dollars at stake, there's no room for error, and no time to delay. we are having this hearing today because a frank, open, and on the record discussion is imperative to adequate oversight going forward, and to make sure that we protect the men and women in uniform in the contingency theater and also protect the american taxpayer. i look forward to the hearing of the testimony of our witnesses today in providing general fields the opportunity to address the subcommittee's concerns. i will now defer to my colleague, senator browne. >> thank you, well said. i'd like to specifically thank you for scheduling this hearing on this topic. this is the second hearing i participated in on this very important topic. as general petraeus stated in his contract, the sca

have not a similar audit been done by usaid?at is correct. >> let's talk about the funding of your agency. usaid did an audit similar to the one that you did on the power plant. do you know what the funding for usaid has been in terms of their inspector general work in afghanistan over the last five, six years? do you know what their total funding has been? >> usaid in terms of its operations in afghanistan? >> $10 million. do you see what they have occurred for a $10 million taxpayer investment? $149 million. $149 million.

for a while, we really didn't have anyone at the helm of usaid. we've had our own problems here at home, obviously. the administration is focusing on health care and other issues. uh, is there some disparity there between the united states and our european partners in terms of advancing the sort of global, uh, development agenda, noam? >> the commitments are sometimes interpreted differently. but, uh, for example, there are more groups now that are monitoring and watching countries' commitments on the international stage. one example is one campaign and data, which is an organization which actually monitors how well countries are doing against their commitment. uh, as a whole, their findings are that the e.u. countries aren't actually doing so well in, for example, maintaining their gleneagles commitments. some countries like the u.k. are actually doing very well, while others, italy, france are slipping. umm, and i think that, uh, the u.s. has experienced a political shift just in the last, you know, recent couple years and the, the reality is th

shortly after the extradition was underway usaid officials say that they followed all the procedures they hope that what is happening right now with the activity surrounding viktor booth that it would not impact relations between moscow and washington in any way let's take a listen to what was said. we have. a broad and deep relationship with russia it is guided by our mutual national interests i don't expect that this will have any impact on our relationship but it is fully consistent with both our. bilateral treaty obligations with thailand and fully consistent with international law this was a very quick and person perceives that under way that surprised tributes wife who now remains as to what is happening with her husband what will happen when she will see head next we do get to speak with her here's what she said yes it's hard for me to talk about but what happened was totally unexpected for both myself and victor's lawyer the thai cabinet held a closed meeting where a political decision was taken to extradite my husband to the us the extradition took place within four hours of

thanks. >> i've been a contractor for usaid in iraq. i was interested in your institution of the role of surrounding countries as a collective head of state. i wish you could elaborate on that. i have not seen anything written in death penalty on -- depth on that in the think tanks or newspapers. can you elaborate on who are the stronger neighbors and connections to particular parties and leaders in iraq. >> i can elaborate on it a little bit. i mean, the, you know, i think the absence of a true head of state, you know, i don't think it's something that people just forgot or didn't do, i just think the way the system was set up it didn't provide in the end -- what happened is that the political positions right from the get-go came a part of the negotiation of pour sharing. you remember that the symbolic president during the iraq governing counsel time was a sunni, but when they sorted it all out, he was a kurd. when the person occupying what should have been a head of state type position is seen as a political partisan and part of the s

oig personal from the part of state, usaid, gao and sigar members are part of the group. and for all coordination regarding oversight work in afghanistan and elsewhere in the region also takes place between the same organizations as well as other oig. these groups continue to play a vital role and serve as a model for new and flexible groups formed in response to future contingency operations regardless where they occur in the world. in afghanistan there are additional coordination groups. the ig is facilitated in country by u.s. forces, afghanistan and the dod ig. participants meet monthly and include all oig offices working in afghanistan. madam chairman, senator brown, the concept of creating a permanent inspector general, that is one of the questions we were asked in alpheus, to oversee contingency operations merits serious consideration. however, existing departmental oigs have proven walter were together with special igs to provide effective coordinated oversight in contingency operations. the existing process these, organizational structures and institutional knowl

first, consul general of the united states daniel rubinstein, head of director of usaid mission, here mr. michael harvey. i have also with me my colleague in government, dr. ali jarbawi, our minister of planning. documentation that pertains to the transfer has just been signed and concluded. so let me now begin, madam secretary, by once again thanking you for taking the time to be with us this morning your time, evening ours, to announce the transfer that you just announced of $150 million in support of the palestinian authority budget. we really appreciate this assistance because it is highly responsive to our needs in two ways. first, in terms of the type of assistance, it being of the form of budget support is the kind of assistance that we need the most, as it helps us deal with the needs that we have to deal with and actually meet the duties, obligations, the responsibilities that we have to discharge in the course of doing the best we can in the interest of bringing about better life for our people. it also is highly responsive to our needs in the sense of its timeliness. as you

a south african engineer, had supervised the construction of 1,300 temporary shelters financed by usaid, and was ready to build a lot more, when he ran into an unexpected road block, the haitian government. is this warehouse normally this empty? >> anton devries: no. this warehouse should be packed to capacity right to the ceiling full of stuff for the immediate displaced people, waiting are they to be helped, which we can't do because our containers is stuck in port. >> pitts: when we were there in august, 24 containers loaded with his building materials-- enough to build 1,200 temporary shelters-- had been stuck for months in this special customs area in port-au-prince because of a bureaucratic glitch. >> devries: i've got a list of each container. when it left united states, before the container arrives here, we already have all of the documentation with a packing list from the beginning. so, there is no... there's no information that anybody need that we don't have. >> pitts: to prove his point, devries took us to his office and showed us some of his paperwork, and a $6,000 check, w

and not a similar audit been done by usaid one year prior to one yours? >> that is correct. >> let's talk about the funding of your agency. u.s. aid to a similar audit two years one year prior. you know what the funding for usaid has been in terms of their inspector internal work in afghanistan over the last five or six years? do you know what the total funding has been? >> funding for usaid in terms of operations in afghanistan? i do not know. >> $10 million. do you see what they have recovered for a $10 million taxpayer investment? $149 million. you have received $46 million. is that correct? >> $46.2 million. >> you have recovered $8 million. >> at this point time, yes. >> can you understand that it is hard for me to reconcile the notion that a lack of funding has been your problem? >> the recovery is that we have thus far experienced are small but the full measure of the outcome of audits and investigations that are underway, the full measure has not thus far been determined. our forthcoming numbers will be much larger than the numbers we submitted. >

you came out of the aid community and came to the peace corps from working with usaid. what has the peace corps contributed, positively and negatively, to the development effort in africa, in some of the less developed countries of the world? then i hope others will come in on that question. >> i think the most important thing the peace corps has contributed to the development process, and one thing that is important to the development process -- it is a generation presses. the revolution took place in 1960. we need to reinvest in security worldwide. that is current in terms of development. the peace corps has always worked at the grass-roots level, the community level, in terms of developing capacity, inspiring young people to get an education, to take on leadership responsibility. i think that is the important factor in what the peace corps provides in terms of recipient countries, in terms of how americans can interact on a global basis. that is a bottom-line accomplishment, one of the greatest investments we can hope to achieve. it is developing capacity at the loca

first, consul general of the united states daniel rubinstein, head of director of usaid mission, here mr. michael harvey. i have also with me my colleague in government, dr. ali jarbawi, our minister of planning. documentation that pertains to the transfer has just been signed and concluded. so let me now begin, madam secretary, by once again thanking you for taking the time to be with us this morning your time, evening ours, to announce the transfer that you just announced of $150 million in support of the palestinian authority budget. we really appreciate this assistance because it is highly responsive to our needs in two ways. first, in terms of the type of assistance, it being of the form of budget support is the kind of assistance that we need the most, as it helps us deal with the needs that we have to deal with and actually meet the duties, obligations, the responsibilities that we have to discharge in the course of doing the best we can in the interest of bringing about better life for our people. it also is highly responsive to our needs in the sense of its timeliness. as you

it is very catastrophic in one of the concerns that bothered me a little bit is that the usaid appropriated to pakistan was first based on how it relates to our security. the crisis is so devastating and so catastrophic that i think sometimes we need to rise above that. what it is really about is about compassion, about helping millions of people who are suffering, not just trying to justify in terms of helping or the amount of money and how it is going to relate to our security or terrorism or other things. in afghanistan, i was going to talk a little bit about the issues of polling the troops and the surges on all of that stuff. last year, president obama doubled in the last 18 months, doubled the amount of troops in afghanistan from 15 to 100,000 troops. the operation enduring freedom budget or afghanistan, this is a military dod budget, with $72 billion in recently congress appropriated 30 million -- 30 billion more dollars otis about $100 billion, about $1 million per soldier per year. i spoke recently to minister farouk the minister for higher education in afghanistan. and i asked him

you came out of the aid community and came to the peace corps from working with usaid. what has the peace corps contributed, positively and negatively, to the development effort in africa, in some of the less developed countries of the world? then i hope others will come in on that question. >> i think the most important thing the peace corps has contributed to the development process, and one thing that is important to the development process -- it is a generation presses. the revolution took place in 1960. we need to reinvest in security worldwide. that is current in terms of development. the peace corps has always worked at the grass-roots level, the community level, in terms of developing capacity, inspiring young people to get an education, to take on leadership responsibility. i think that is the important factor in what the peace corps provides in terms of recipient countries, in terms of how americans can interact on a global basis. that is a bottom-line accomplishment, one of the greatest investments we can hope to achieve. it is developing capacity at the loca

usaid under bush made an effort to bring in everything on down. the little strike on dependent said a gift to the american people which i support but interestingly enough in the most controversial regions we actually pulled our usaid stickers off, the goal being to give the credit to the local government to empower the local government. so we, ourselves, have been downplaying what we've done. the second issue is in pakistan there is so much corruption and questionable use of funds, and so i'm not sure why more hasn't been done but we have done quite a bit in pakistan with the flooding as well. right here. >> thanks, steve, thank you, congressman. my name is ra, a security adviser and couldn't sit still when you talked of using both realities of the bad men to shoot in the face when they are walking up with a suicide is a storm approaching my enter control point and giving candy to. the reality behind that, it is very sensitive, there's a lot of things we can't say on the group think of d.c. and america in general, the word of evidence comes to min

the just for the immediate update, i would invite you to go to the usaid website and that will give at >> next question. i'm sorry, over there. >> my question is on hiv in sub-saharan africa. uncheck why more from the tennessee world affairs council. and my question is, what funding for the u.s. government and the ngos and other government is available for prevention right now in sub-saharan africa for hiv? and how much funding would it take to have a preventable, sustainable come for federal programs for hiv in sub-saharan africa? >> well, what was put together the original program, 20% of the total amount was in therapy and the rest and care. between 20 and 30% in prevention. what would it take? and bashes the tablet program. their other components of prevention. it really would require access to the modalities of prevention that we know work. and that's the point i made that is so frustrating. even under the best of circumstances, when you have hoped infrastructures that don't allow any more than 20% of the population, who would clearly benefit from a proven prevention modalities do

we appreciate very much what you did as the director of usaid. this chart shows the moratorium in our figures and israeli figures. when we reached the 10 month end of the moratorium, this would be an increase of almost 17% in israel and an increase of 16%. they have constructed 3452 units under the moratorium. they admitted to 900. okay? we went through proximity talks and we offered our position. they said no. they said they wanted to -- they would not discuss anything without direct negotiations. we had them the whole month of september. yet they were not reciprocated when we asked them about an end game. since september 26th until october 21st, they introduced 544 housing units on the west bank, 212 housing units. they want to get to 1611 housing units that will get him to a specific number by december 2014. they may come to us in one or two weeks and talk about the moratorium. close your eyes to what is happening on the ground and let's talk. i am losing my land to the settlement and i am losing my credibility. this time, i cannot do anything

you came out of the aid community and came to the peace corps from working wit usaid. what has the peace corps contributed,ositively and negatively, to the development effort in africa, in some of the less developed countries of the world? then i hope others will come in on that question. >> i think the most important thing the peace corps has contributed to the development process, and one thing that is important to the development process -- it is a generation presses. the revolution took place in 1960. we need to reinvest in security worldwide. that is current in terms of development. the peace corps has always worked at the grass-roots level, the community level, in terms of developing capacity, inspiring young people to get an education, to take on leadership responsibility. i think that is the important factor in what the peace corps provides in terms of recipient countries, in terms of how americans can interact on a global basis. that is a bottom-line accomplishment, one of the greatest investments we can hope to achieve. it is developing capacity at the local

i was surprised that usaid only came up once in the discussion and that sparked a question for me andordination on the ground, knowing that there are various agencies, so many ngo's and for many in this room working in iraq, i was curious if some of you could comment on the coordination on the ground and how that is working? >> let me turn to the chief coordinator. coordinator and chief i guess, christine mcnab who works for the u.n. system. >> there are many people on the ground. humanitarian, development agencies, ngo's, whatever, and the government needs to keep a grip on who is doing what in the development of iraq in one of the traditional u.n. roles or even the undp roles is to support the government is a coordination, and there is a very active iraq partner for him, which is both the multilateral and bilateral agencies, cochaired by me as the u.n. resident coordinator together with the representatives of the world bank, but already agreed with government that as the new government comes and they will be the third cochair of this forum. if there is a logical progression in any c

we're working closely with usaid to build up the capacity of the government to enable the emergence of the private-sector, to regulate the private sector, to give them stable operating conditions. the key issue in the future will be jobs. oil will generate income, but it will not generate jobs. the oilfields are generating about 30,000 jobs. we need 3 million jobs. it is an essential part of our work. the u.n. has agreed with the government of the rock on a five point agenda. -- with the government of iraq on a five point agenda. there's a highly neglected area of climate change in environmental management. the country is getting drier and haltotter. the one the water supply is declining drastically. the marshlands and down to 10% of the regional area. they're one of the most important marshlands globally. we will work on that through the global environment facility, through the united nations mahmud to program, we often partner with the world bank. i have one final message in my 10 minutes. as much as we have done together in very difficult security conditions, there is more to be don

men and women that you command through usaid, the state of operations throughout the continent, and as the president of men and women, uniform, africans you remember the most. this is a new and highly engage command post. i'm excited to see its progress as i continue to follow your career. i would like to thank both of you for sitting before this committee today and for your service to our country. you have put a lot of years of service in and i take my hat off to all of you who made it to the status that you made it because of the contributions that you made and the confidence people placing you. you have taken that responsibility with these two commands so i am proud to support your nomination and should i be here i will be voting for you. general ham, i have a couple points on africom. the african union, i've visited them in addis ababa, first united states senator, congressman to feed to the a you. the deputy minister told me i was the first senator to visit the headquarters. please encourage my colleagues through your contacts to check out the a you. i will also be at the eastern

the men and women as you command them through the usaid, the part of agriculture, department of state operations throughout the continent, but as the men and women in aeriform -- the presence in of a uniform that the men and women of africa will remember most. i'm excited to see the progress as i continue to follow your career upon leaving the senate. again, i would like to thank both of you for sitting before this committee today and for your service to our country. you have put a lot of years of service in and i take my hat off to all of you gentleman who made it to the status you have made because of the contribution made and the confidence people have placed in you. you have taken on added responsibility now with these two commands. so i am proud to support your nomination and should i be here, i would be voting for it. general ham, i have a couple of points on africa. on the african union, by visited them and come to find out, i think was the first united states senator -- a lot of our congresspersons have been to the african union, but i was told of the first senator to come and

it's important for usaid and the companies who indicated their willingness to donate to haiti to get their donations in and it's important for the government of haiti to stand up and be heard on behalf of these children. i look forward to working with the help for haiti bill to be sure that more children can be adopted but the epidemic of cholera is spreading to these children and we must help them now. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. would members in the rear of the chamber please take their conversations off the floor. would members kindly clear the aislings -- the isles. -- the aisles. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. poe: ski unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders heretofore entered into, the following members may be permitted to address the house, are revise and extend their remarks and include therein extraneous material. mr. burton for today, november 16, 17, 18 and 19, myself, mr. poe, for today, november 16, 17, 18, and 19. ms. ros-lehtinen for today, mr. smith from new jer

you came out of the aid community and came to the peace corps from worki with usaid. what has the peace corps contributed, positively and negatively, to the development effort in africa, in some of the less developed countries of the world? then i hope others will come in onhat question. >> i think the most important thing the peace corps has contributed to the development process, and one thing that is important to the development process -- it is a generation presses. the revolution took place in 1960. we need to reinvest in security worldwide. that is current in terms of development. the peace corps has always worked at the grass-roots level, the community level, in terms of developing capacity, inspiring young people to get an education, to take on leadership responsibility. i think that is the important factor in what the peace corps provides in terms of recipient countries, in terms of how americans can interact on a global basis. that is a bottom-line accomplishment, one of the greatest investments we can hope to achieve. it is developing capacity at the local

people which naturally support, but interestingly enough the most controversy allegiance we pulled our usaidstickers off, the goal being to give the credit to the local government in power the local government. so we ourselves have been sort of downplaying what we've done. the second issue is in pakistan there's so much as we know so much corruption and a questionable use of funds, so i'm not sure why more has not been done but we've also done quite a bit in pakistan with the flooding as well. >> right here. >> thanks, steve, thank you, a congressman. i am a security adviser, and i could not sit still when you talked about phasing with realities of the very bad man in the face when they are walking up with a suicide fest on approaching my control point with children giving candy to. the reality behind that, we have -- it's very sensitive. there's a lot of things we can't say in the group think of d.c. and america in general. the word arrogance comes to mind and is used a lot of times by writers who try to address how we are affecting other cultures. when you spoke to come and you said what e

that generates jobs has not really existed in iraq before but we are working that very closely with usaid to build up the capacity of the government for the emergence of the private-sector. to regulate the private sector, to give them stable operating conditions because the key is in the future it will be jobs. oil will generate income but it will not generate jobs. the oil fields down south are generating about 30,000 jobs. we need 3 million jobs town south. so it is an essential part of our work. the u.n. has agreed now with the government of iraq on a five-point agenda of which covers the areas i have mentioned already. first highly neglected area and that is climate change and environmental management because the country is getting dry and hot. that is the trend of the moment. water supply is declining disastrously. the famous marshlands are down to 10% of their original area and one of the most important globally and we will work on that through of the global environmental facility through the united nations environmental program with the world bank we often partner with the world ba

you came out of the aid community and came to the peace corps from working with usaid. what has the peace corps contributed, positively and negatively, to the development effort in africa, in some of the less developed countries of the world? then i hope others will come in on that question. >> i think the most important thing the peace corps has contributed to the development process, and one thing that is important to the development process -- it is a generation presses. the revolution took place in 1960. we need to reinvest in security worldwide. that is current in terms of development. the peace corps has always worked at the grass-roots level, the community level, in terms of developing capacity, inspiring young people to get an education, to take on leadership responsibility. i think that is the important factor in what the peace corps provides in terms of recipient countries, in terms of how americans can interact on a global basis. that is a bottom-line accomplishment, one of the greatest investments we can hope to achieve. it is developing capacity at the loca

. >> there's another one rumored to be going to usaid shortly. that's pretty far along. >> without confirming that necessarily, to actually continue to work on developing the capabilities of the palestinian authority, which is fully consistent with what senator mitchell is doing. >> are there -- are you rethinking strategy now? i mean, given that it's been two years basically? >> were intensively trying to get the parties back into negotiations, so we believe we have the right strategy, which is only through direct negotiation can the parties actually resolve the conflict once and for all? what we need to see a factual, you know, movement by the parties back in direct negotiations and that is something we are still intensively trying to achieve. >> p.j., same subject. palmer moussa, arab league secretary-general gave an interview over the weekend -- a radio interview with fox. he said although they still have confidence in the u.s.-led process, it's time to think about alternatives. and he asked rhetorically what's wrong with going to the united

i am very grateful and there's a great director of usaid. there's also physicians, dr. roche. disabler trying to do the right thing. >> host: dr., before we want you and i were chatting about ddt and malaria. how do you feel about her again ddt back to help get rid of malaria? >> guest: you know, like talking about birth control or how to label yourself as a conservative or liberal, it's almost like ddt as a litmus test. i'll tell you one thing, as a physician, if that was a struggle between the mosquito and the human when we launched a ddt and i wasn't really replaced by another, you know, another agent that would produce useful and in some ways that was a great pick tree. and now looking back, i did a science project and it wasn't anti-ddt science project. because i like a lot of young americans understood that large-scale agriculture use of ddt was damaging to the ecosystem. i remember being really upset about this as a kid. and i think that was good. that's a good instinct. i'm a big fan of the environmental movement. i guess i just don't understand that in the horn of afr

we'd usaid working with the state department. with nongovernmental organizations. we at the united nations. with foreign military units working in my. ammonite brigade commanders responsible. if they want you to build unity of effort. and what you have to deal with is build relationships. you have to understand what they're trying to achieve and how you can assist each other in moving forward to what you're trying to achieve. what we have to do to achieve these organizations. we didn't pay any attention to them and it causes problems. made it much more difficult. it's gained unity of effort and realizing the four-star level. frankly i found lieutenant colonel's whole lot better than the four-star generals. they did it for survival. what i realize is you have to teach these examples. and we have to made out of joy of a strong team and i think that's what we worked with at the state department when he was over there. and then carry that forward. and it's very important. again, all these other places -- the u.n. plays a major role in iraq and want them to play even a

the men and women you command through usaid, the department of agriculture, the department of state operations is the presence of men and women in uniform that the africans will remember the most. general, this is a new and highly engaged command post. i am excited to see its progress as i continue to follow your career upon leaving the senate. again, i would like to thank both of you for sitting before this committee today and for your service to our country. you have a lot of years of service. i tip my hat to all of you gentlemen who have made it to the ranks and the status that you have made it because of the contribution to have it made and the confidence people have placed in you. you are taking on the responsibility with these two commands. i am proud to support the nomination. should i be here, i will be voting for you. general ham, i have a couple of questions about africom and the africa union. i was the first united states senator. as the deputy minister told me, i was the first senator to build them at their headquarters. -- to visit them at their headquarters. please encourage your

we ad usaid working there. we had nongovernmental organizations. we had the united nations. we had foreign military units working in there. then i had a brigade commander responsible for this, i was responsible and i say i want you to build unit of effort. what you have to do, you have to build relationships. you have to understand what they're trying to achieve. then how you can assist each other in moving forward to this broad goal you're requiring trying to achieve. what we use to do is ignore many of these organizations. we didn't pay any attention to them t caused us problems. made it much more difficult than we had to. it is about gaining unit of effort and realizing that from a four-star level general down to the lieutenant colonel level. frankly i found the lieutenant colonel did a hell of a lot better job than four-star generals did because they did it for survival. what i realized we have to teach this and we have to be the examples. we have to lay this out and show we have a strong team and we understand this piece of unit of effort. that's what i think we worked

usaid did a similar audit one year prior on the kabul power plant. do you know what the funding for usaid had done in terms of their general inspector work in afghanistan over the last five, six years? do you know what their total funding has been? >> funding for usaid in terms of its operations in afghanistan, i do not know. >> $10 million. do you see what they've are covered for $10 million taxpayer investment? 149 million. and you have received $46 million, is that correct, general? >> 46.2 million. >> and you'll have recovered a $.2 million? >> at this point in time, yes. >> can you understand as a matter of select those numbers is hard for me to reconcile the notion that a lack of funding has been your problem? >> senator, the recoveries that we invest our experienced our small. but the full measure of the outcome of audits and investigations that are under way are -- that full measure has not thus far been determined. at our forthcoming numbers will be much larger and the numbers we submitted to the city and there will up of work that the feder

we'd usaid working with the state department. with nongovernmental organizations. we at the united nations. with foreign military units working in my. ammonite brigade commanders responsible. if they want you to build unity of effort. and what you have to deal with is build relationships. you have to understand what they're trying to achieve and how you can assist each other in moving forward to what you're trying to achieve. what we have to do to achieve these organizations. we didn't pay any attention to them and it causes problems. made it much more difficult. it's gained unity of effort and realizing the four-star level. frankly i found lieutenant colonel's whole lot better than the four-star generals. they did it for survival. what i realize is you have to teach these examples. and we have to made out of joy of a strong team and i think that's what we worked with at the state department when he was over there. and then carry that forward. and it's very important. again, all these other places -- the u.n. plays a major role in iraq and want them to play even a