he joined usaid in 1971 as an assistant. development adviser in vietnam and has served as a regional mission for central asia and director of the program office in india, deputy mission director in egypt. in 1994, he became the first mission director for the west bank in gaza. he holds a bachelor of science degree in physical sciences from the ohio state university, a master's degree in international relations from the university of pennsylvania, and a master's degree in public administration from the john f. kennedy school of government at harvard university. we welcome all three of you here this afternoon. we operate on a five-minute rule so if you can keep your remarks to that time, there is a lighting device on the table that will indicate your time has concluded. we will then ask questions for the same period of time. without further ado, we will welcome you know. >> thank you. thank you for holding this hearing and inviting me to appear before you today to discuss the issues facing iraq and the challenges associated wi

i think in the end, usaid would be an expensive u.s.foreign policy and as much connections can be made between ngos, unfortunately they are slow and they are bureaucracies and they don't always have a lot of money. and i think what we as arab-aricans, we should really skip over this and so on. there's the idea of something without orders. ericwithout borders. there are ways that can be done. the peace corps -- how many americans go? >> u.s. government has a catalog. >> will you allow me? [laughter] i don't know. >> i have a lot of friends. but you're right. your point, which is interesting as arab-american participation in civic engagement is important. >> if you want to go, go there. there's lots to do. civil society is blossoming ito arab countries. in syria, not to end it will have hopefully the regime. libya in north of egypt. there is something going on. really explain on their own. without having to go through them. but i think civil society is really where it's at. the idea wi promote he culture and ideas coming across, within ou

i think in the end, usaid would be an expensive u.s.foreign policy and as much connections can be made between ngos, unfortunately they are slow and they are bureaucracies and they don't always have a lot of money. and i think what we as arab-americans, we should really skip over this and so on. there's the idea of something without orders. eric without borders. there are ways that can be done. the peace corps -- how many americans go? >> u.s. government has a catalog. >> will you allow me? [laughter] i don't know. >> i have a lot of friends. but you're right. your point, which is interesting as arab-american participation in civic engagement is important. >> if you want to go, go there. there's lots to do. civil society is blossoming into arab countries. in syria, not to end it will have hopefully the regime. libya in north of egypt. there is something going on. really explain on their own. without having to go through them. but i think civil society is really where it's at. the idea will promote the culture and ideas coming across, wi

usaid, mr. their, has awarded $1.4 billion since 2002 for agricultural programs to engage farmers to engage in something other than opium farming. there is concern that these programs are distorting the economy, or treating economies that are not sustainable. do have a measure on the impact of these programs, and will any be sustainable in terms of the alternative agricultural program? >> i would be happy to get you more on the measures, but to fundamentally answer your question, yes, i think this investment in agriculture which is about finding alternatives has been dramatically successful in two regards. first of all, a large number of provinces, and i could get you the number, have gone opium- free, and that is been very important to our strategy of reducing and eliminating opium production in afghanistan. the other is that there is no silver bullet to replace opium in afghanistan. what we're trying to do is create an agricultural mixed and market for those agricultural products that will all

all of these institutions, the state of ig, the usaid, the gao all have an important responsibility in ensuring oversight and accountability. you know the phrase -- we are here to help -- sometimes help can be painful but in my experience in iraq, i found that kind of oversight to be absolutely essential going forward. i will certainly, if confirmed, employ the same approach in afghanistan. >> are there experiences from your time in iraq that you think can be helpful in terms of coordinating all these efforts? for those of us looking at what is going on on the ground, as you point out, there are many people they're trying to address oversight and accountability but how is all that getting coordinated? we know we have general petraeus on the military side. is there a similar command structure on the civilian side? who is responsible? >> thank you for that question because it is an important one. basically, there are two and only two u.s. commanders in afghanistan as there were in iraq, one military and one civilian. the civilian commander is u.s. ambassador. i would like to say that as

usaid works -- >> i'm quite familiar with how usaid works.would it not be a concern to you, it certainly is to me, i agree with your -- that was the original intent. but what you have that kind of an intent, that's a relatively modest amount of money. when you get to very significant sums of money, would it not -- i'm asking you to put on your professional hat, not a public policy. as a professional, would it not concern you that now we have a different management challenge when the magnitude isn't $25 billion, it's a $1 billion plus. next door to afghanistan, i know it's not your portfolio. would that be of concern to you as a professional from a.i.d.? >> yes, sir. i would be building in all kinds of safeguards and overlapping mechanisms in order to make sure the money is spent appropriately. >> i would too. mr. kahl, is it of any concern at all? i know it's not your portfolio, as you are pointed out, the pentagon, any concern? >> congressman, i'm just not going to speak to afghanistan. it's not in my portfolio -- >> i'm asking you to speak

agency for international development and stressed with him the importance, i think, of usaid with its multiple missions in overseas and especially in africa to initiate an autism initiative within the department. and i'm wondering have you had collaborations with them and same way with dr. friedan, internationally with cdc. are they also looking to dedicate and prioritize autism at those two agencies? >> sure. i think global health is a priority and we're fortunate to be able to work with mental health and human development, for instance, in this area. cdc similarly has an interest and often globally in international research network that autism speaks is a network that's actually codeveloped with the cdc and with research from 30-plus countries. i think that usaid and other agencies is certainly some, you know -- we will welcome the opportunity to work with them. we'll have a prousaid and understandably at that point. autism is not one of their priorities. but we certainly look forward to revisiting that opportunity and to work with agency. our sense is that from our travels and conv

forward initiative, operation transparency that the military runs, the joint military usaid vetting mechanism for contract there's comedy accountable assistance for genistein initiative and so forth. one of my first consultations was that the state is your general. i had a very close working relationship with the head of seeger, derek bolen, who i have a lot of regard for. so again, i am pleased that cigar seems to be moving forward with real capability. and if confirmed, i look forward to welcoming the gao, which i understand plans to set up a permanent staff in the fall. i think all of these institutions, the state ag and the usaid currently shells that are general come a gao i'll have an important responsibility in ensuring oversight and accountability. and you know the phrase. we are here to help. sometimes hope can be painful, but in my experience in iraq, i found that kind of oversight to be absolutely essential going forward and i will certainly have confirmed and employ the same approach in afghanistan. >> and are their experiences from their time in iraq that you think can

department of state and usaid as they move forward on this that we might prod them on this issue and their ambassadors -- and they all have projects that they can fund little stipend that they could do and they don't even know that but if ambassadors' wives could have the women perhaps of the countries and courage them to have a meeting and then encourage the african community to, therefore, approach the hierarchy of the church, i think that we could, as you mentioned -- we don't need a lot of money. we just need to use the resources and everyone needs a home, you're absolutely right. because i was late and i've taken enough time, i will yield back and ask no more questions. and i thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. chairman. just as a brief follow-up, ms. kobenan. you mentioned regarding your son and the brain mapping that was done and it seemed to really shed light on what his -- you know, his strong and what he was going to have difficulties with. can you expand upon that? is that an mri or sorts? >> it's an eqg that they do. they put a lot of -- how do you call this, electro,

round out the scholarships where there is a new building, a science building paid for in part by the usaid. where students are appreciative of that aid, they are still wondering about what is the bargain fortheir country. there's a lot more money being spent on the military. and people are wondering, what is it that the country is being asked to do in response, in return for this aid. and is it worth it. because they also see new stories about american drone strikes killing people. now the pakistani military has indicated they actually think these drone strikes are pretty effective. i think the government is being more than a little hypocritical about this in their criticism. but there is a lot of angst on the street and anger on the street and concern about civilians being killed. >> warner: and as you said in a couple of your pieces arc lot of suspicion about u.s. motives here. >> yes. and when you begin laying out the theories, they they make perfect sense to a lot of pakistanies and make no sense to americans. people, there actually a newspaper article while i was there written by a se

there's a lot of local grievances and we try to address those local grievances to a lot of our usaid programs. but at the same time, trying to work closely with homeland security in terms of building border security and also preventing the movement of interest explosives, materials and to afghanistan where they are telling the truth so we need to work on that. we need to work very much with the security forces. pakistan has 147,000 troops in the border provinces and they have been working to eliminate the terrorist threat. so we need to continue working with them through the dod to help build their ability to take action. once they cleared out these terrorists then we want to help them hold that and start providing those basic services people haven't been forthcoming within the past. in the case of yemen it's on the front page of the newspapers today. there is a very serious political dispute been going on. but at the same time, there is a real terrorist threat in that country. obviously the political uncertainty right now makes it difficult for to do very much, but we had been worki

is also closely coordinating efforts with the usaid and usda.focused or core competencies. in our goal, there's three core areas identified. innovation through collaborative research, in country capacity building like regulations, natural resource management, trade and extension, and efficient market development through information, analysis, and statistics, so the third and important principle dealing with global food security is focus on country identified needs and the core competencies of agencies as well as other developing countries and other international organizations. as we've seen for decades, innovative research is the best opportunity for game-changer results in global agriculture. research and a climate changing era works to development and improve technologies and methods for agriculture water use official sigh, soil conservation, and the land on which seeds a sewn. we are changing plant breeding by giving us a better understand ing of stress resistant crops. we are using discoveries about genetic information to better predict and

usaid, and the state department, the people who spend that money, say, look, we know that there have been problems in the past and we've tried to improve it. but what this report is saying, the report is by the democratic staff, not the republicans. now, the democratic staff on the senate foreign relations committee is saying that essentially this -- with the best of intentions sometimes, giving aid money can make the problem worse. >> and you know there's no doubt, jill, that so many afghans right now are not grateful at all for what the united states has done in pre treasurer and lives lost. in fact, president karzai often suggesting that maybe the united states is military occupiers. there seems to be little gratitude from the afghan kni people for what the u.s. has done. and that's causing a lot of people in congress to rethink and say, it's time to get out of it. >> they are. wolf, let me show you the package that we just did. it starts with a place that i was in afghanistan. it's a good example of what they are trying to do. sometimes it doesn't quite work. >> u.s. taxpayers gi

it will put millions of lives at risk and undermine the ability of usaid to prevent famine. food aid provided by usaid is a lifesaving measure for millions of vulnerable people overseas. according to usaid, these brutal cuts will mean up to 16 million people, mainly women and children, will not receive the lifesaving food aid. the gentlelady mentions the mcgovern-dole program, near and dear to my heart. that program serves about five million people -- five million children, children, in 28 countries. the $20 million cut to mcgovern-dole will end school meals for over 400,000 children in the world's poorest countries. we are literally, literally taking food out of the mouths of these children. imagine how that would make you feel if it were your child. so i say to the gentlelady and to the gentleman who just spoke, this is -- this is not a jobs bill we are bringing to the floor here today. unfortunately my colleagues on the other side of the aisle don't want to bring a jobs bill to the floor. they are too busy trying to undermine or underfund funding for national public radio

agency for international development and stressed with him the importance, i think, of usaid with its multiple missions in overseas and especially in africa to initiate an autism initiative within the department. and i'm wondering have you had collaborations with them and same way with dr. friedan, internationally with cdc. are they also looking to dedicate and prioritize autism at those two agencies? >> sure. i think global health is a priority and we're fortunate to be able to work with mental health and human development, for instance, in this area. cdc similarly has an interest and often globally in international research network that autism speaks is a network that's actually codeveloped with the cdc and with research from 30-plus countries. i think that usaid and other agencies is certainly some, you know -- we will welcome the opportunity to work with them. we'll have a prousaid and understandably at that point. autism is not one of their priorities. but we certainly look forward to revisiting that opportunity and to work with agency. our sense is that from our travels and conv

military shouldn't be the supported effort, maybe we should be the supporting effort or possibly a usaid our state department or some other lead governmental agency to kind of guide us through there. as we talk about the 19 your with an automatic weapon, might not be the young man or young woman that we want to tackle that problem. thoughts on that. >> i was really impressed when i made this trip last april to two or the detention center, which was created which you could not get to during my first trip to afghanistan. so this is a gleaming white, concrete, barbwire, looks like a county jail, essentially that everybody can see. and they mean it that way so that the afghan citizens can say that for my angle is because he got picked up in this raid, and they can come in now, get on the telephone and sit in a plexiglass and talk to him, and he has some council and then beginning. it's kind of hard to get out of that jail. they are not letting guys out just because they think they are innocent. so that's one step forward to greeting this judiciary that's good. but to do that we've had to pou

i understand that usaid and other donors have taken steps to ensure they are not in fleeting salaries -- that they are not inflating salaries. that is important. the worst thing we could do it is be competing with the afghan government for talent. it needs all that it can get and a lot more to function as a government. that would be another key part of it. it is their country. how it moves forward is ultimately the responsibility. i want to establish myself as a reliable partner, but keeping the emphasis on sustainable development and transition, which is what they themselves seek. third, i would say, again, after being in consultation with ambassador grossman and others, we have a lot of international partners engaged in afghanistan, nato and non-nato, the united nations, the representative to the secretary general. i cooperated closely with him there, look forward to doing the same in afghanistan. as i said earlier at a slightly different context, afghanistan is not a uniquely american problem. it is a threat to international peace and security and requires an ongoing international

i enter san usaid and other donors have already taken steps to ensure they are not inflating salaries. i think that would be very important. the worst thing we can do is be competing with the afghan government for talent. it needs all it can get an lot more to function as the government. that would be another key part of it. it is their country. how it moves forward is ultimately their responsibility. i want to establish myself as a reliable partner, but keep the the emphasis on sustainable development and transition, which is what they themselves seek. third, i would say this consultation with ambassador grossman and others, we have a lot of international partners engaged in afghanistan. nato and non-nato, the united nations plays an important role, the special representative of the secretary general perform that role in iraq and i cooperated closely with him there and look forward to doing the same afghanistan. as i said earlier, afghanistan is not a uniquely american problem. it is a threat to international peace and security and requires an ongoing international commitment. what r

we have 149 countries in this world that are getting usaid money. that are getting aid from the united states of america through various programs. so, again, i would just want to briefly say, i do think we can do better, i think we have to do better, the out-of-control spending in the past puts us in a perilous position where we spend $600 million a day just in interest on our debt. and so when i look at $1.8 billion in reduction and i look at the fact that our interest payment is $600 million a day, the best thing we could probably do for the world and certainly for ourselves is to get that deficit under control. we can do a lot more good in this world if we were to take care of our own financial pocketbooks. we have not yet done. that i would yield back and thank the gentlewoman for yielding to me. i appreciate the spirit of this body allowing me to add this extra comment. the chair: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman from wime yields back. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from utah. those in favor say aye. those o

ground, what we did was we launched about right now an approximate 10 million-dollar program from usaid on political inclusion, training and elections. in yemen where we have an approximate 50 million-dollar program what we have done is we have again continue that program in the context of health and education, democracy and governance as well. thanks to the contributions of the american people, your tax dollars, we have been working to help in partnership with folks across the arab world and what we like to do is bring and the arab-american community and to our work. for example we launched a partnership a few years back with american charities for palestine where we have been able to put a thousand laptops in schools in the west bank and it is that kind of work that we like to do going forward. so those are some introductory remarks. i can get into issues country by country as we go forward. >> and a general license let me pose this question, and we can also open this up a little later to the audience, but is the arab world ready for democracy and what does democracy mean to the arab

clearly visible in the cafeteria were usaid bags of beef and beans. one mother said please thank the american people when you go back home. i couldn't feed my children. i couldn't send them to school. i was afraid my son who is 11 years old was going to join the paramilitaries and guerrillas just to get food. now my son is getting fed and staying in school. please tell the american people, thank you. in kenya in the largest slum in the world, i went to a mc govern-dole breakfast and lunch program, i was amazed by the school's energy and achievements. the school's principal told me how they store and prepare the commodities that feed her students and all they all know this program is a program from the people of the united states of america. i ate a serial mush made from yellow peas grown by american farmers in a room full of children. the kids dug into this food like manna from heaven. one little boy would take a bite and scoop a small amount from his bowl and put it in his pocket. he was taking food home to his siblings who don't get anything to eat.

we want them to be able to look at state, dod, usaid, one. and i just would suggest to you that we would like you to re-examine this in the light of the fact that huge savings could take place. um, you have a final word to close up. you can take as much time as you want. it's your time. >> thank you. >> and i'll just say, again, we appreciate the candid dialogue that's taken place between us, and we look forward to you getting back to some of the things you said you would. >> just before i sum up let me just respond quickly, mr. chairman, to your question. i think you're entirely correct, that there was not a focus, the full focus, the full in-depth focus that should have been made in the very beginning. but i think the corrections that we have seen dod now deploying their personnel in theater, the state department opening a regional office in the region to do both iraq and afghanistan does address the question of focus. secondly, um, i think on your question about the breadth of the responsibilities of an inspector general, i certainly agree

usaid thinks that will cost $117 million every year. the roads here are very broken, this trucker says because of the large load they carry. in real terms for afghans working here, the $3,600 he earns in a year is equivalent to the cost of maintaining just 100 meters of road. it's one thing if power plants and roads run out of money when the americans leave, the it's another when medical care is affected. people in central kabul's hospital will feel it hard. care is free here, but these high-tech devices america paid for and not without continued huge inputs of cash from donors, they could stay off permanently. america's gifts so costly, afghanistan so broke that the bid to give them everything risks coming to nothing. cnn, kabul. >> this explains why there's so much anger here in washington right now. billions of dollars potentially, simply wasted u.s. taxpayer dollars, wasted in afghanistan on roads, infrastructure, power plants, hospitals, billions of dollars that could have been spent right here in the united states. much more on th

prior to this assignment, he was usaid administrator in iraq. mr. crowley joined usaid in 1971 razz an area development vizner vietnam. he has since served as director of the regional mission for central asia, director of the office in india and deputy mission director in egypt. in 1994, mr. crowley was the first mission director in gaza. she holds a bachelor of science from the ohio state university masters degree in international relations from the university of pennsylvania and a masters degree in public administration from the john f. kennedy school of government at harvard university and we welcome all three of you here this afternoon. we operate under the five-minute rule. so if you could keep your remarks to that time, there is a lighting device on the table that will warn you when the red light comes on. that means your time has concluded and we'll ask questions for the same period of time and without further ado, we will welcome you, ms. haslach. >> thank you, distinguished key members. thank you for holding this hearing and inviting me to

usaid thinks that will cost $150 million a year.arge roads that are carried. in real terms, the $3,600 that he earns in a year is the equivalent the cost of maintaining 100 meters of road. it's one thing if they have money once americans leave. it's another for medical care. people in the central kabul hospital will feel it hard. care is free here. but the high-tech devices america paid for are not without continued huge input of cash from donors they could stay down permanently. america's gifts sojourn russ and afghan so broke. san incredible story of waste out there. michael holmes joins us. i want to talk about pakistan and the arrests of these informa confirm there has been an arrest made of the guy who rented the house from the cia on which they're able to look in on osama bin laden's compound, right? they've arrested him. he's still in custody, as far as we know. and "the new york times" reporting that four other people who helped the cia are also in custody. so you've got a situation here of yet again, people asking whose sid

the head of usaid tells the committee, he does not endorse the report's conclusions. the u.s.istan claims, have accomplished some astonishing things and the state department said aid is still crucial. >> it's an essential come point of the national security strategy in afghanistan. >> the single most important step the association could take the report said is stop paying afghan's inflated salaries that could be ten times what local people are paying. here's another big worry. the world bank said 97% of afghanistan's gdp is related to spending in international military and donor community. if aid money drys up, this report warns it could trigger a major economic recession. jill dougherty, cnn, washington. >> in igs to those warnings about afghanistan, we're also getting information, confirmation today that usair strikes have resumed in yemen. i want to assess counter terrorism efforts. let's go to fran townsend, these a member of the cia and department of homeland security advisory committee. and she joins us from new york v via skype. fran great to see you. you've reported th

when i was there last few months ago i have never seen so much activity usaid, justice department, comprehensive effort if we put 128,000 more afghan security forces over the last 18 months i don't think it is fair to say drawing down troops or another 23,000 next year reduces the effort clearly we have used that appropriately under making progress and i appreciate your of leadership on that. with the improvement that we have all seen. it is truly remarkable and to be commended and with that i yield back. >> thank you very much for your service and testimony. 4.5 years ago i was talking about energy and mr. larsen was with me. we were stunned when the chinese began the discussion of energy talking about post whale. quayle is finite of course, there will be that post oil world. without that focus of the next election which is never more than 10 years away the next report which is always less than three months away, i have heard none of the leadership mentioned there will be a post-oil world it is the dominant factor in chinese planning so people have a different perspective of time and agenda and

at the end of the day the dollars go into the state department and usaid budget are national security dollars and many of those dollars come at a huge savings what we would have to spend in military action down the road if we didn't do this. these are all arguments familiar to the people in this room but we haven't, a, been able to sell effectively enough beyond this room and b, maybe more importantly, we haven't been able to make concrete for people to really understand it. part of that is institutional issue. with us, building the apparatus to be able to sell this case for effectively and part of it is an issue that is part of secretary and tom nies and are focused on in the coming months as we hit these budget battles but then there is the third substantive answer to your question that we're going to have to make tough choices. we, our esf account got hit, i'm not a budget guy so don't quote me on the numbers but on order of a couple billion dollars. that is a huge cut when you're talking about a relatively small esf account and it has an impact on countries around the world. and s

it sets out four key outcomes for state and usaid.elop results for the american people. using the blueprint, we have begun hands-on implementation. in early thune 11, we -- in early 2011, we said the notices to provide guidance on critical works elements for supervisors to include in employees and performance plans. we lost a skills-based performance class in 2011. the department has also adopted a certification requirement for initialing continues training in contract administration. as part of this process, we instituted a requirement that the contract exceeding $25 million per year certifies that adequate administration resources have been identified to manage the contract. funding for afghanistan has also been reduced because a civilian platform there is relatively stable. the current funding levels will be sufficient to cover operations two years in care of our military drawdown in iraq is critical in our transition to supporting an iraq that is solid, stable, and self-reliant. we're working to achieve sustained diplomacy in a st

one of the first things usaid did in 2002 when we reopened the of the sea is to start them -- educational programs for girls who were shut out of the educational system under the taliban. in the middle of january on a freezing day, i took then- senator biden to the girls' school that we have established. we visited a first grade class that had girls whose ages range from 6 through 12 because the 12-year-olds had to become of school-age when the taliban took over. i remember asking a 12-year-old whether it bothered her to be in there with little kids and she said, i am just so happy to have the chance for an education. i was touched at the time and i still am. as we consider again hard options, it certainly is my intention to see that there would be nothing in my recommendations over decisions i might have input or control of that could put at risk in half of the population oin afghanistn who face significant challenges but who are in school and government. it does touch that metrics. these are things we can measure. i take the point. i am not far along in to this to be able to give you la

we had usaid, a comprehensive effort to improve the governance. and i'll conclude by saying if we put 128,000 more afghan security forces over the course of the last 18 months, i don't think it's fair to say that drawing down 10,000 u.s. troops this year and even another 23,000 next year significantly reduces our effort. i think clearly we have resourced this effort appropriately and we're making progress, and certainly appreciate your leadership on that. it was a very tough fight but the improvement that all of us have seen over the course of the last 18 months is truly remarkable and to be commended. and with that i yield back. >> thank you. mr. bartlett. >> thank you very much. thank you for your service and your testimony. 4 1/2 years ago i led a co-dell -- a codel to china to talk about energy. i believe mr. larson was on that codel with me and were stunned when the chinese began their discussion of energy talking about post oil. oil is finite, of course it will be a post oil world. with our focus of the next election which is never more than

at the same time, it has been noted around usaid headquarters that there are long lines of people tryingo avail of themselves -- avail themselves of the programs they have heard about. as you prepare for this assignment, what is your reading of how our aid is being accepted and to what extent you will be able to monitor id on behalf of taxpayers in the united states who always fear that money that goes to uncooperative governments, sometimes corrupt governments, as a matter of fact, or officials and disappear from our view even as we are attempting to do good. >> yes. on what we call the money to promote democracy, which is about $65 million, there has been -- and the money to promote economic growth -- there has been a very large outpouring from the public and hundreds of people, something like 600 organizations came to the informations session on how to apply to these grants. so there is a lot of interest on the part of egyptian civil society. let me take this opportunity to say that, by no means, is this an affront to egyptian sovereignty. we do these programs, as you well know, in hu

usaid resourced three embedded prts and resourced our prt, our prudential prt. and i believe that the wise outreach to the shakes in -- shs in the tribe, and the outreach to the stabilization and governance project, where the governance had been completely shattered as a result of the al qaeda and the efforts, that comprehensive effort paid off in the end. it built up governance which had the capacity to stand up on it's own two feet and extend the writ of the prudential government out into the districts and down to the municipalities and even to the tribes. it incorporated the tribes into the solution, rather than have the tribes be on the outside of governance and part of the problem. it ultimately built the capacity for the people of that providence, the people along the river, to ply their trade to engage in economic development and that in conjunction with the persistence governance all overwatched by u.s. forces, but eventually over watched by iraqi security forces provided the trade space necessary ultimately for the persistence of government and the mess

a minister in the foreign service, he joined usaid as an adviser in vietnam. he has since served in the mission for central asia, and director of india, director in egypt, in 1994, he became the first mission director for the west bank in gaza. he is a bachelor of silence from the ohio state university. master's degree in international relations and a master's degree in public administration from the john f. kennedy school of government at harvard university. we welcome all three of you here. we operate under the 5 minute rule. if you could keep your remarks to that time, there is a lighting device on the table that will warn you when the time has concluded. then we will ask questions for the same period of time. without further ado, i welcome you. >> thank you, chairman. distinguished committee members. thank you for inviting me to appear before you today did discuss the issues facing iraq and the challenges associated with the transition from a military-led to a civilian-led presence. we have significant interest in iraq that would require the continuation o

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you look to the publications from the state department and usaid, and you have a broad area of where the money went by category in the u.s. budget. you have absolutely no idea of what we are buying, where it is going, and how it is being accounted for and if any of you have seen a "the washington post" today, you probably realize this is not one of our current strikes. this is a grim picture. it was a grim when we develop a new strategy and it has grown more dam with time. unless something radical happens to change pakistan's behavior between now and 2014, relations will probably be, at best, as strange as they are now or if pakistan was more and more to try to position themselves to win the transition in terms of pakistan's strategic goals. thank you. >> thank you very much for the fine introduction and thank all of you for coming today. it is always a daunting task to follow tony like this. usually he covers the issue is so well and we are in agreement with each other, i find myself wondering what i will talk about or do i just sit down and let the questions began? , to i'd like to

usaid resourced three embedded prts and resourced our prt, our prudential prt. and i believe that the wise outreach to the shakes in -- shs in the tribe, and the outreach to the stabilization and governance project, where the governance had been completely shattered as a result of the al qaeda and the efforts, that comprehensive effort paid off in the end. it built up governance which had the capacity to stand up on it's own two feet and extend the writ of the prudential government out into the districts and down to the municipalities and even to the tribes. it incorporated the tribes into the solution, rather than have the tribes be on the outside of governance and part of the problem. it ultimately built the capacity for the people of that providence, the people along the river, to ply their trade to engage in economic development and that in conjunction with the persistence governance all overwatched by u.s. forces, but eventually over watched by iraqi security forces provided the trade space necessary ultimately for the persistence of government and the mess

but the same time, around usaid headquarters, there are long lines of people trying to avail themselvesprograms they have heard about. what is your reading as you prepare for this assignment of howl our aid is being accepted customer to what extent we be able to monitor on behalf of the taxpayers of the united states who always fear the money that goes to uncooperative governments were corrupt governments and officials will disappear even as we are attempting to do good? >> on the money to promote democracy which is about $65 million and the money to promote economic growth, there has been a large outpouring from the public. something like 600 organizations came to the information sessions how to apply for the grants. there is a lot of interest in egyptian civil society. by no means is this an affront to egyptian sovereignty. we do these programs in hundreds of countries in the world. they're almost always well received by the government's as support for their own institutions. the monitoring of small grants is always problematic i have already looked into this issue with the middle eas

diplomacy, from effective assistance programs that are administered by the department of state and usaidthe conditions on the ground in afghanistan are directly related to our ability to successfully attack the terrorist networks that are operating along the border in pakistan. in its current position as director of the c.i.a., mr. panetta has reinvigorated these efforts. most notably with a successful raid on osama bin laden. indeed, i believe when history looks back, outside of the critical and ultimate decision by the president of the united states, one of the most important roles played in this effort to prepare the way for those courageous seals was the steady leadership of leon panetta at the central intelligence agency c.i.a. -- at the central intelligence agency. he understands the complexity of our relationship with pakistan and indeed throughout the world. this expertise will be critical as we move forward, critical for our next secretary of defense. he will also lead the department of defense in preparing for the emerging threats to our national security, such as attacks to ou