usaid provides assistance all over the world. in afghanistan we are planning for a range of scenarios in which we would continue providing development assistance across this entire planning process we are emphasizing the need to protect the gains made to date, support food security, and strengthen essential services for afghan citizens. usaid will continue to review its programs, understand the constraints, determine the best way forward in helping to maintain a stable afghan state. the mission will pivot development programming to augment humanitarian assistance as necessary to respond to security and access changes in the operating environment and increase basic service delivery, livelihood opportunities, food security and human rights protection. as the ambassador reflected, the afghanistan of 2021 is a very different place from 2002. usaid has invested $22 billion in development assistance in afghanistan since 2002. to promote a more resilient, inclusive and prosperous afghanistan that is a reliable partner to the united stat

usaid has been cleared to send and know business as usual. we have emphasized the need for key international principles including protectingth human rights , particularly those of women and girls to underscore the need to continue upholding the same principles as a condition for continued support. gains have beenco hard one and with great sacrifice and effort from the united states and thehe afghan people. afghanistan trajectory matters to american national interest. we appreciate congresses recognition that usaid development programs are critical to achieving national security objectives to help improve prosperity and security of the united states afghanistan and regional partners it's an honor today to be with you and share what usaid is doing in this regard i look forward to your questions. >> thank you ambassador. i now recognize members for five minutes each pursuant to the house rules all time yield for questioning the witnesses i will recognize members by committee seniority alternating between democrats and o republicans. if you miss

, it says usaid special alert donald trump has published new documents on election fraud.hat's going out this week you wonder why is usaid is sending anything the group that receives that why am i getting an e-mail like that from usaid and maybe they click on that button there and then the russians are off to the races. so that's how they lure you in a phishing e-mail, something that provokes your curiosity to the point you can't resist, just clicking on that to see what it's all about and then once you do the russians have you, in your systems, and that's what microsoft is warning people about, particularly i.t., telecom, defense contractors, all those folks, that's who seems to be targeted here, jon >> well, is it true -- go ahead, jon. >> eamon, that's an element, almost an art behind how, you know, scammers pick how they craft these e-mails. based on sometimes people's instinct actual i knew it reactioning they will click on something even if they realize a split second later they shouldn't have is this playing off perhaps some of the paranoia and conspiracy theories i

they said it went beyond this usaid email platform saying the hackers used a variety of lures includingere finally stopped but this is a clear ratcheting up of the tension between the u.s. and russia. we have just heard from the democratic chairman of the house intelligence committee adam schiff, he says this brazen act, utilizing emails associated with the u.s. government demonstrates that russia remains undeterred, despite sanctions following the solar winds attack, those sanctions gave the administration flexibility to tighten the economic screws further if necessary, it now appears necessary. and john, as you noted, this coming pairly three weeks before that biden-putin summit in geneva. >> escalates the stakes for that. alex marquardt, thank you for the reporting. and catherine, just the timing here, pew skin is a b-- putin i a bad actor. we know in the agenda for the summit discussions about 2020 election interference, back to 2016 if you want. the russian troop build-up with, the poisoning and the jailing of aleks aleks alexei navalny. you're nice for a few weeks in advance to se

jeremy is the executive director of usaid's covid task force.is one of the united states most talented emergency response professionals that is out there, and he previously served in the obama administration from 2013 to 2017. he is director of office u.s. staff of assistance where he led u.s. government response to international disasters. he led humanitarian responses to things like the ebola outbreak in west africa. jeremy, thank you for being with us today. we really want to hear what you have to say. jeremy: that's a very generous introduction. i want to talk today about how u.s. aid are seeing the outlook. the intro highlighted the challenges we are seeing in india and south asia. i think it underscores the challenges that we are going through. it's the reality of our large-scale vaccinations that are still somewhat distant for the world at large. so it has been almost a year and a half the world has been experience a globe will health crisis unlike anything we have seen in our lifetime. in the u.s. government is absolutely committed to do

. >> reporter: the latest attack hit the state department's agency for international development, usaid, which distributes america's foreign aid. the hackers inserted malware that sent what appeared to be genuine usaid emails to more than 150 recipients including human rights groups and other organizations that have been critical of russia's president vladimir putin in a blog post microsoft says the attack came from a threat actor called nobelium, originating from russia. the same group behind the huge solarwind attack that targeted the departments of homeland security, energy, commerce, defense, treasury and state and thousands of america's businesses the u.s. government has said nobelium's hacking is the work of russia's foreign intelligence service this time microsoft says automated systems blocked most of the malicious emails and marked them as spam. but the russian attack comes less than three weeks before president biden is scheduled to meet putin in geneva >> we need clear rules of nation-state conduct in cyberspace and then clearly stated consequences for violations of those rul

jeremy is the executive director of usaid's covid task force.is one of the united states most talented emergency response professionals that is out there, and he previously served in the obama administration from 2013 to 2017. he is director of office u.s. staff of assistance where he led u.s. government response to international disasters. he led humanitarian responses to things like the ebola outbreak in west africa. jeremy, thank you for being with us today. we really want to hear what you have to say. jeremy: that's a very generous introduction. i want to talk today about how u.s. aid are seeing the outlook. the intro highlighted the challenges we are seeing in india and south asia. i think it underscores the challenges that we are going through. it's the reality of our large-scale vaccinations that are still somewhat distant for the world at large. so it has been almost a year and a half the world has been experience a globe will health crisis unlike anything we have seen in our lifetime. in the u.s. government is absolutely committed to do

usaid has deployed a disaster assistance response team. and as i have told our cabinet secretary, we must be ambitious and deliberate. we must also be proactive, not just in the northern triangle but across latin america. third, we must think beyond government. i've spoken with foundation leaders have been sending support to the region for long time. and are now prepared to do more. i've also been engaging with leaders in the united states about their interest in investing in the region. and the barriers that may stand in their way. private sector investments can create jobs and speed up progress. meanwhile, community organizations can help us implement a place -based approach targeting those communities that have been hardest hit. community organizations will also help us to restore hope. last tuesday i had a virtual meeting with a group of long-standing community leaders in guatemala. they talked about the work they had been doing to feed people, to house people, to find people jobs. all the while taking on relentless corruption. it is h

i had a professor at usaid chummy a series of slides, photographs of labs the u.s.government built overseas, in response to a previous health threat. they were put in particular locations because of that health threat, completely irrelevant right now. we should be thinking about nimble surveillance, nimble testing capacity. but i would argue more than anything else health systems strengthening. building the capacity in many of these nations. they are looking for it. it's not as if countries around the world are saying they don't want to do this. they are saying, we are not sure how to do this. that is something we should be investing in now and we should continue to invest in for the long run. there something else tony mentioned in the passing and that is vaccine hesitancy. this gets at a larger problem of understanding science in our public discourse. tony and i had a conversation a few weeks ago, in which we pointed to what the media crisis that occurred with the serious challenge of blood clots that may have been coming out of one of the particular vaccines. most

doesn't give us the result that we hope for and then with the committee jurisdiction and with the usaid to reassess and to assure that we are adequately changing to adapt to these developments from mexico in the region. and the migration crisis has also garnered my attention i will be working with the administration to rollout the committee. i have had conversations already. i understand the difficulties of collaborating with the government of these countries but we have the all hands on deck effort and then to address the issue that we face. this new approach working for the private sector like reforming outdated system and a sustainable realistic approach. this also means ensuring local communities will finance infrastructure projects. we must ensure for the rule of law at its core. and if that is targeting african descendents. i could talk more about that maybe we will do that later. also deeply concerned of the lasting impact. as you call organized crime and with the instability in iraq and then we can think is this a significant driver of migration as corruption and we cannot ignor

at the university of california in san francisco that specializes in the psychological effects for usaid today and i quote what children in a gaza are exposed to in a regular basis anything that any children anywhere else in the world. there's no place to go for these children they are unable to escape. when you put people with no hope for the future you cannot be surprised when violence erupts. and then from my colleagues to urge the trump administration with the ongoing humanitarian crisis with the israeli defense officials who were morning the crisis to lead to yet another corruption. why didn't we take notice then? will united states once again? we can find the children once again to those horrible conditions they are forced to live under today? and i hope my colleagues appreciate that we must not do that. and let us be clear it is not a terrorist organization it is a corrupt and repressive organization. but here is the irony. so hamas would be overjoyed. >> let us understand one of hamas'ep goals is to show palestinians they represent the real resistance senator scott helps them do

agency for international development or usaid. we have our nbc correspondent ken delanian. explain this for us. >> microsoft is calling this a rebellion, but they say it's the same group that carried out the solar winds hack, and sbr is a very sophisticated company. they piggyback on the company that produce the usaid in order to spend approximate -- they sent these e-mails to about 3,000 computers in 154 organizations in ten countries. we don't know how the. this is a thing that your automatic software should block. nevertheless, what it shows, jeff, is the russian and taylor ing r -- tailoring against us. that's what worries me about firms like microsoft, it's not just a targeted response to a certain number of organizations, it's a really bad array targeting a whole nation, jeff. >> let me get to your experience with timing issues. you have president xi set to meet with president biden in a week's time. what's happening here? the russians are always. they're constantly trying to break into the. that's the thing that maybe biden and putin have to talk about at this meetin

according to the blog post from microsoft, they got into the usaid system for sending email alerts thatrnment agency that sends foreign aid a lot of non-profits and ngos and foreign policy people and defense people are on the email list email that they sent out it looks like it is coming from usaid. it says special alerts president trump published new documents on election fraud. that is a baiting thing in email. why would donald trump send that months after he is no longer president of the united states you imagine the people who got this were curious why usaid would send that out and that link we were told by microsoft that 3,000 email addresses were targeted a lot stopped by spam filters. some of this did get through highly targeted. perhaps tailored to the individual people in many ways microsoft is saying this attack is still ongoing if you are out there and get an email that looks like it is from usaid and saying anything about donald trump and the election, do not click on the link the new york times reporting this is targeted at people who have been critical of vladimir putin an

government through a usaid e-mail account. organizations that operate around the world to provide humanitarian and other assistance to people that the u.s. wants to support and, for example, in russia, you know, we conduct activities whether it's in russia or eastern europe or the like. the russians want to know what's going on, what are organizations doing, and they went in through a u.s. official account run by an outside company, and they were able to get in and now start exploiting these systems. arthel: exploiting them how? what do they want to do? >> once they're n you -- they're using a phishing attack, right in they're coming in, you click on the link, and then it downloads malware to your system. it allows them to take control of the computer, look around, identify other computers, move around and elevate their privilege so eventually they own the entire system and that network, and they can watch and what's happening and understand what the organization is doing. arthel: i want to play some sound from president biden

for israel, and you have a real split in elite opinion, deeply questioning the amount and type of usaido israel, and the amount and type of u.s. support given to the united nations and other international bodies. >> the israeli army has said it will be presenting a plan to political leadership for a potential ground operation. do you expect that there will be a ground operation on offensive in gaza playing out in the days to come? >> i said seven years ago that -- and every time we enter a cycle with hamas, you have to look at all options, but we know the price of that decision. our main goal is to protect our citizens. today, we have a strong military, and i do not think that we are considerate right now, but the operation will continue in the attacks, it will continue. let me say that, we are trying to minimize civilian casualties, and hamas is doing the exact opposite. we are dealing with a terrorist organization, and it will continue to fight the way we are doing now, trying to minimize civilian casualties. we need all options on the table, but for now, it has not been discussed in

i mean, what sort of information would usaid have, or the other agencies?e w.h.o. or the chinese government gives us no help or access, there's a lot of investigative threads that are unopened and unaddressed here. usaid, they have a $2 million predict program. and they have a ton of records. they may know stuff about what the wuhan institute was up to. they have never been asked. you know, sanjay gupta broke huge news months ago that robert redfield who has seen all the intelligence believes it came from the lab base ed on his expert opinion and the biden people never talked to him. why don't you have a hearing. put in guy in front of a bible and congressional committee. see what he has to say. it's crazy to me that there's all of the people and institutions with all of the information that have never been asked. we went through the politicization of the origin, of the question that we are trying to unravel, and focus on not just the science. so there's a lot of things. there's a whole world of information that the biden administration will hopefully get t

the link between usaid and investigations into the bidens was at the heart of president trump's secondchment. secretary blinken met president zelensky today and assured him the u.s. stands with his nation. >> ukraine was tested again, just weeks ago, this spring, russia pushed more forces in than at any time since 2014 when it invaded. i can tell you mr. president, we stand strongly with you come our partners do, as well. i heard the same thing when i was at nato a couple of weeks ago. we look for russia to cease reckless and aggressive action. >> in recent weeks, tensions between ukraine and russia have been flaring up. back in april, russia sent 100,000 troops to ukraine's borders. the biggest mobilization since moscow annexed crimea in 2014. those forces have begun to withdraw. but many are still in place. muska also continues to back a pro-russian insurgency in ukraine's east. that conflict alone has killed more than 30,000 people according to the united nations. ukraine's president zelensky wants the country to join nato for increased protection from russia, but the white house sa

this attack >> ali, it was a good old-fashioned email scam with messages that appeared to come from usaid that's the government agency responsible for foreign aid. take a look at this email which microsoft said was part of the attack it looks real enough but there's a message designed to catch your attention about donald trump and the election in there. why would the usaid under biden be sending out an email that looks like it's from trump it's all purposed to make you curious enough to click that link once you do, the russians are in your computer. that's all it takes. i asked a microsoft executive why microsoft felt it had to tell the world about this hack right now. >> we've been tracking them and we saw new phases almost, new layering of these attacks. that's when we started seeing the types of organizations that are being attacked the one vulnerability that's out there and that's why we decided that it's time for us to release this and to create more public awareness. >> now, this malicious campaign targeted people in the u.s. and also in 24 countries microsoft said it looked like pa

just take usaid for one example. they had this $200 million predict program.was the wuhan institute of virology. right? they have got a ton of records. they might know some stuff about what the wuhan institute of virology was up to. they've never really been asked. you know, sanjay gupta broke huge news months ago that robert redfield, the former head of the cdc, who has seen all the intelligence, believes it came from a lab based on his expert opinion. but the biden people never talked to him. he's never -- you know, why don't you have a hearing? let's put this guy in front of a bible and a congressional committee. see what he has to say. there's -- it's just crazy to me that there is all of these people and institutions with all of this information. that have never been asked because we went through this sort of politicization of the origin question that we are now trying to unravel. we're trying to take the politics out of it and focus on not just the science but the forensics, as sanjay has said, it's really important. so, yeah, there is a lot of things. t

because we see a lot of other headlines, of course, the president wants to boost spending at the state usaid global health programs, but they will only get an extra $855 million. it does not seem like moving the needle. of course, in real life, these are massive figures. we can't lose side of the fact that $865 million is a lot of money. i wonder how many charging stations you can install with that. i don't know. there's a lot of work to be done in that sector. amanda: it's a big spending budget with some big assumptions. we want to bring in laura davidson and mike mckee. mike, i want to start with you. some of the ascension's --these assumptions seem kind of goldilocks. matt: -- mike: it even as an economist, these numbers are meaningless. it is put together on the assumption that nothing happens over 10 years to change any of this, and that will not be the case. a year ago, you would not have said anything about a pandemic. the numbers are put together to try to make the numbers work in the budget, because they will probably try to use reconciliation for this and they have to hit certain c

why would the usaid under biden be sending out an email that looks like it's from trump it's all purposedo make you curious enough to click that link, and then once you do, the russians are in your computer, that's all it takes. i asked microsoft executive -- why microsoft felt it had to tell the world about this hack right now. >> we've been tracking them since -- and we saw new phases, almost, new layering of these attacks and it's when we started seeing the types of organizations that are being attacked, the vulnerability that's out there and that's why we decided it's time for us to release this and to create more public awareness. >> this malicious campaign targeted people in the u.s., and also in 24 countries, microsoft said it looked like part of an ongoing effort to target government agencies as part of an intelligence gathering operation. the company said it first sought evidence of the attack back in january but it escalated in a big way on may 25th, and they say it's an active incident right now, all of this comes despite the new sanctions president biden put on the russian gov

who served in the obama administration as deputy assistant administrator for the middle east at the usaidnt the and work closely with a former middle east peace envoy. he has his work cut out for him. the administration has reiterated its endorsement of a two-state solution and plans to roll back some of donald trump's policies. the white house plans to resume financial aid to the palestinians. he has been praised by those who know him for his knowledge and pragmatic approach. his first big challenge will be to mediate a de-escalation of the violence, with a goal of initiating a cease-fire. meanwhile the u.s. is continuing its telephone diplomacy, reaching out to key leaders in the region to negotiate behind the scenes. anchor: earlier, the advocacy director for the palestine institute for public diplomacy was on the phone, which is an independent palestinian organization, and answered the question, does the population in gaza really support the hamas group right now? reporter: we focus on hamas and the way they choose and the tactics they choose. we have to remember that israel's occupat

development agency usaid. sending emails to more than 7,000 organizations. cri.mioft ened tlliuwa the them same ru .systems of numerous federal ntgeiedi the treasury and pentago the russian government denied responsibility for any of these attacks. >> this isn't the only case of malicious cyberactivity of likely russian origin. this is a sophisticated actor who did their best to hide their tracks. >> reporter: cyberattacks are just one area of suspected russian activity. the national security council now determined to find out who and what is responsible. those more than 100 reported cases of so-called havana syndrome. the mysterious and serious health incidents that first affected americans in cuba now reaching u.s. spies, diplomats and other personnel around the globe. former cia operative says russia must be behind it. he became dangerously ill during a trip to moscow in 2017 with debilitating symptoms that have plagued him ever since. >> i woke up in the middle of the night with an incredible case of vertigo. the room was spinning. every day for three ye

i am here today as executive director of usaid covid work and i want to begin, as my colleague did by thanking congress for the generosity shown through the american rescue plan in affording resources to battle this pandemic globally. i have led numerous disaster crisis responses for the u.s. government in my career. i let usa to work on ebola in west africa in 2014 which was the most complex thing i had ever dealt with in my career, i think this goes well beyond it. this is really like nothing we've ever seen, it's an overlapping "humanitarian crisis", health crisis and development crisis. any one of those on its own would be a historic crisis, the three overlapping together are beyond anything any of us in our careers have seen. so fighting that is going to take every resources capability u.s. government can muster. president biden is committed to the goal of ending the pandemic just as he is ending at home. i'm grateful to the committee for continuing to focus attention and effort and support as we take the fight forward. the pandemic has shown it can overwhelm even the most develo

the subject is usaid especially alert.at email click on that link, the hackers gain access to their computers. we don't know what the intention is or what has been installed in u.s. government systems. microsoft, the company disclosing attack, said those emails went out as recently as this week and it is ongoing. while all this is happening president joe biden is about to meet with russian president russian president vladimir putin in three weeks. jameel aftera former senior counsel to the committee on intelligence. he works as an soeshlgt counsel to former president george w. bush. nicole, can you zbif us a little more about who we think did this, when and why? >> so we think this is the sbr, which is the same group that pulled off the solarwinds attack that we're still dissecting on american federal agencies and companies. we think they came in through constant contact. some people have heard of it. it's a competitor of -- basically they got into constant contact and used to send the emails that appear to come from usaid

to step down as president accordingly usaid prioritized aid to the venezuelan people in coordination with the interim president the report may not come as too much of a surprise though as the tribune ministration adamantly supported why do you know the question now will the by the administration stay on the same political course for r t john heidi. elsewhere around the world search efforts are underway in mexico city after an elevated section of the city's metro collapse late last night the collapse sent a subway car plunging down to a busy street below killing at least 23 people 70 people have been injured authorities believe 4 more people are still lost in the wreckage. and still to come president biden facing new pressure but this time from the catholic church find out what got him into hot water and later at the sports h.q. regina hamm brings us a straight sets battle of champion. madrid open. and remember to keep up with all the latest news or catch up with anything you might have missed download the portable t.v. apps you can watch us whenever you want we'll be right back. thos

i am presently at the smithsonian in the anthropology department, but i had long career with usaid and on several occasions went to the philippines to take a look at aids program there my question is this there was a long program starting in the early 50s right down to the time. it was finally signed off. i forget when that was but it was a by eight standards one of its largest programs and it operated in almost every sector imaginable agriculture education health environment, etc. etc, etc. i'm wondering did you pick up any sort of feeling what the pillow the filipinos felt about this us government aid program that ran at least for 40 years a lot of money a lot of money and how it is perceived. i guess. that's my question. looking forward to your answer. and well, i'm i may have to disappoint you lawrence. so this is a bit out. i tended not to look at some questions of development and foreign aid in part because it often ran separately from from military undertaking and also because so many many other scholars and have sort of really taken this up in my fields in the last few years. i

. >>> state department and usaid officials are preparing to testify on the administrations strategy in afghanistan at a house foreign affairs committee hearing. live coverage here on cspan3. >> this house foreign committees hearing is expected to begin shortly. live coverage here on cspan3.

an e-mail apears to be from usaid.the breach comes on the heals of sophisticated cyber attacks and only three weeks before president biden was scheduled to meet with president putin in gineva. there are horrifying new details about the shooting at a california rail yard more than half a dozen people were killed. now it appears they were likely targeted. the santa clara county sheriff said they fired off 39 shots. he was methodically wanting to kill people. he was a highly disgruntled employee for years. looks about terrorism, fear, manifestos and a black memo book filled with notes about how he hates his workplace. his ex-wife said he talked about wanting to kill people at work a decade ago. a co-worker said he had a very hot temper. >>> senior administration officials tell the "new york times" that the president ordered a new authorization after intel officials said they had evidence that required more analysis. yesterday the president said he would make the results public unless there is something i'm unaware of. the

while they defended spending billions of dollars in usaid to rebuild gaza. >> the key take aways fromp. >> secularist it blinken on his way back to washington as we speak after a very busy several days in the region doing a lot of diplomacy. his last stop in the state of jordan, he was one of the go-betweens putting together the cease-fire between israel and hamas, the fighting lasted 11 days, with over 250 people dead on both sides of the border, the pause in hostilities now that is almost one week and counting. the fighting could start again if you listen to the head of hamas, he was touring the distraction and gaza, he claims they have 300 miles of dangerous underground tunnels which israel had target, tunnels which were used to transport rockets and fighters. israel says they got a lot of that. hamas claims to have 10,000 fighters willing to infiltrate into israel and caused trouble. it was an disturbing aspect of the recent conflict that we did see a lot of unrest inside of israel. overall back in the states americans seem like they are backing israel's recent poll shows 59% of t

transfer and human transfer of our scientists to wuhan and the capacity building after the united states, usaid had provided as his own bureau had. >> martha: yeah, that's another very big part of this story that we'll continue to dig in to. what was the relationship with that lab, why were there u.s. dollars and grant form going to that lab. david asher, i hope we can continue our conversation as more of this comes out. give you a lot of credit for the work you've done. good to see you. >> thank you again. bye-bye. >> martha: so a new warning about a deadly side effect of president biden's border crisis. texas governor greg abbott joins us with more after the "the story" continues after, this. >> it's unseen to the general public. there's unseen things coming across the border that are deadly dangerous. ith liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need

what was the point of view of james baker on the usaid and peace corps efforts in order to promote free market economy in eastern europe after the fall of the berlin wall was he cautious about it or on the contrary very supportive of such policies supported and that starts in his time as secretary of treasury. he recognized that seed money. which was advisors and small amounts of money. given to the countries of poland and hungary could help those countries do the trance do the transfer from a centrally administered economy to a free market. he was very much in favor of it. but mr. represent. when it came to 1991 1992 when the soviets clearly needed large sums of funds in order to be carried out their economic transformation. baker gathered the same coalition that he gathered for iraq war he gathered that coalition in a pledging conference in washington. but the us contribution was relatively small to the point that the french foreign minister said, you know when george marshall gathered this kind of a conference pledging conference at the end of world war ii the us. led the effort with

the russian hackers caved out this wave of attacks, they used an email service that was used by the usaid. from there they sent out emails that look authentic. take a look at this one from tuesday, earlier this week. it claims that donald trump has published new documents on election fraud. the link that's included in that email then installs a malicious file if you click on it, which allows the russian hack eers to get inside, steal data, and go on to infect other computers. another remarkable part of this like with the solar wind breach, it's yet again a private company announcing these attacks, not the u.s. government. and, of course, it is clear the russian attacks have not slowed down. they have been stepped up despite the fact that the biden administration has carried out these recent actions and sanctions against russia, and president biden's desire for what he calls a stable predictable relationship. brianna. many say this is predictable behavior from russia. >> it is. and at a critical time as you mentioned. alex, great report. thank you so much. back with us is jim acosta, and a

russian hackers have carried out another cyber attack, this one targeting an email system used by the usaidncy. the perpetrators are apparently the same group that carried out the solar winds attack late last year. we will get to matthew chance live in moscow. more russian hacking. what can you tell us about this latest attack? >> reporter: we've had this posting by microsoft that say that this week they identified this new cyber attack against various aid agencies, non-government organizations in the united states, but also in about 24 other countries as well. that seems to have emanated from russia, they've said it's the same group of hackers that were behind the solar winds attack as you just mentioned. we know that the white house of course have specifically identified two intelligence work that it was the russian foreign intelligence service the svr that they believe was behind the solar winds attack which targeted various u.s. government organizations in an intelligence gathering effort. the u.s. is so sure of that that they of course instituted tough economic sanctions in april again