this, the same country where usama bin laden hid in plain sight for years. we still don't know how much pakistan's leaders knew about that but john bolton, he is a former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and a fox news contributor and he is here to give us his opinion. so what do you think? should we be giving 1.6 billion to a country that possibly hid bin laden? also we know imprison ad doctor alleged to have helped the cia track down bin laden? should they be getting this amount of aid? >> well, there are few recipients of foreign aid that attract more opposition in congress than pakistan and there's a lot of good reason for it and there are probably reasons to question this or that or the other aspect of this particular package which is freeing up previously-committed aid that we had suspended but you know, when you look at that cost, you also have to weigh the other costs. if we didn't support this government in pakistan which is far from perfect, and that risk is that the government would fall to pakistani taliban or other radicals, and the country's very la

among benghazi suspects, faraj for his ties to usama bin laden.er the benghazi at act shalabi fled to pakistan and returned to libya. chairman of house intelligence committee whose staffers are investigating benghazi would not discuss specifics but says the connections to al qaeda senior leadership are clear. >> it is accurate of the group being targeted by the bureau at this point there is strong al qaeda ties. >> to at least one individual? >> there may be multiple individuals that have these strong ties. >> reporter: fox news asked the cia to comment on the connections to al qaeda senior leadership and when these connections were known if if we get a response we'll certainly bring at that to you, bill. bill: what are you learning about the planning for this attack now, catherine. >> reporter: this is one of the most significant developments in the benghazi investigation because it further undercuts the administration claims that the attack was spontaneous or in response to these demos in u.s. embassy in cairo on 9/11 last year. based on the int

his alleged ties to usama bin laden date back to 1994. first posted by interpol because he was involved in a murderer of german police officer and his wife. based on intelligence and investigation rogers told fox news that the attack was not spontaneous nor thrown together quickly in response to these protests at the u.s. embassy in cairo on 9/11 last year. >> i believe they had an aspirational phase that was probably months. i believe that they had a operational phase that lasted at least a couple of weeks, maybe even longer. and then an mission phase that -- an niche asian phase that losed a couple or three days prior to the event itself. the notion that they just showed up and it was spontaneous act does not comport with at least the information we've seen on the intelligence committee. >> reporter: so the two data points, jenna, one, that there was certainly evidence of preplanning and the second that at least two of the suspects are believed to have ties to the al qaeda senior leadership really moved the story foreward in a significa

this is more like getting usama bin laden.nd is where you put a whole bunch of soldiers in and they stick around for a while. this is a targeted -- it's risky. no doubt it's riskier than a drone. no doubt. but he is willing to do it when there is a high chance of success. >> david, there will be critics, especially of the libyan raid because this guy is tied to the 1998 bombings of tanzania and kenya. the embassy bombings, he has been on the streets there for a long time. we don't note intel that led that he might have current plots with al qaeda. but there will be people who say, you know, if you can get him, why can't you get the benghazi suspects? >> there will be. but i think this raid, these raids could be useful in this regard. without being suspicious of the timing, which is given the deal making that we engaged in in syria and the fact that some players in the region question our commitment to be involved, what these raids show is that we're willing to get our hands dirty and we are willing to go in and be more than si

under the leadership of people like usama bin laden.ow they are a force to be reckoned with throughout that area. the united states is giving help to somalia but al-shabab is claiming credit for another deadly attack. just yesterday. they claimed maybe 13 to 25 people because they are targeting westerners and also troops from the areas around somalia, because they say we own this country, you foreigners get out. >> yeah, there is a strong united states connection to the recruiting efforts that are going on there. >> we are very worried about what is going on, especially in one particular state, in minnesota that has a large somalian population that some of the youth, diseffected youth are being targeted and being recruited by this, these terrorist groups to be part of this jihadist movement. remember this is a terrorist group, islamic militant group that wants to establish shariah law. because of the large somalian population in minnesota, a population that does not want to be part of this, but there are certain young people who are dis

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secretary clinton reportedly telling the audience that she was in favor of the raid that killed usama bine president biden opposed it. is this a hint of 2016? >>> and now to san diego, in more legal trouble for ousted mayor bob filner in august the former mayor resigned. he was caught up in a sexual harassment scandal. and today, filner pleading guilty to false imprisonment and battery involving three women. filner could get jail time. theencing is set for and that's tonight's speed receipt. this is a fox news alert. the clock is ticking to the debt ceiling deadline and senate leaders now are renewing talks to prevent default. also the house announcing it will not vote on any fiscal legislation tonight. karl rove joins us. karl? nice to see you and the news is breaking every second. we thought the house was going to vote. and now that is out for the night. your thoughts? >> earlier today, senior white house -- excuse me, senior house leadership aides thought they had a consensus to bring a plan forward. the plan was not dissimilar in the large aspects from the senate plan. january 15th, f

including usama bin laden.volved with those embassy bombings in kenya and tans knee a he may have been involved with with al qaeda cells in libya. obviously of great importance to the united states besides the indictment, bill, against him in new york city for those bombings that killed more than 200 people, including dozen or so americans back in 1998. so somebody we really wanted to talk to and get some information on what's going on in north africa. >> and he probably has information about benghazi. i mean, if is he that high up in the the terrorist organization, he had to know what happened there. so they snatch this guy, the seals do, and they get out. now he is on a navy vessel some place and you assume they are having a nice conversation with him, right? >> absolutely. i'm sure we sent one of our interrogation teams to chat with him. get some information. you know, know if there is any plots out there. maybe he knows something about benghazi. i think people are a little bit disappointed that we didn't ge

it may be a better capture then usama bin laden would have been at his age. much he knew about active operations. >> the range of activity around the world could be very significant but from the moment the miranda rights are read, he appreciated intellectually what would happen if he got grabbed and the question is now is he simply maintaining a form of discipline to ignore the questions, ignore the psychological warfare? i think we will get very little out of him, unfortunately. martha: thank you very much, ambassador. bill: a fox business alert. we heard from the house speaker, tell you what he said. the high-stakes roles on again today. some getting cancer. the only common link, they worked the same school and now everyone wants an answer as wife. >> they are investigating it and we'll decide what to do. we don't want to leave our kids here to be exposed. i love bold flavors! i'd love it if you'd open the chute! [ male announcer ] progresso. surprisingly bold flavor for a heart healthy soup. martha: students, parents and staff at one california school dema

techniques, certainly the idea has always been to create, robbery, teamwork sort of thing even after usama bin are the previous administration. more or less i, i, i. that is not for the world needs. >> i agree with what you are saying. the bottom line here is when you think about all the things that could be said about a situation, the teamwork required, the goals that must be reached, what people around the table feel about various issues. a real leader is out for more data. not just pulling himself or reporting to the nation about what he feels or what he did, it is about being able to assemble all of that information and come to a recent, sane judgment that gives people confidence. when people hear i, i, i, they think this guy, it is all about him. charles: can you be narcissistic and insecure at the same time? or is it the same thing? >> it is the same thing. there would not be a reason to sing your own praises if inside he did not feel like $0.02. there would be no reason to go on the cover of "gq" magazine unless you felt unless i am a celebrity and president that is not going to be enou

they were hiding usama bin laden in a beautiful summer retreat.ng on them it will be a money situation, a shutdown decision from the u.s. government, why not address all the countries in the middle east we are giving aid to? >> it's not about shutting downd keeping the other part. it is a punishment. political punishment of the egyptian government because they removed the muslim brotherhood. in the case of egypt, this is a country which had for three decades maintained a peace process wwth israel. this is a country fighting the jihadist. more than that, it is not just about egypt, it is about a trust built up with egypt and its partners and who are these partners? bahrain, kuwait, arabia, all of these countries need egypt to be their ally and we are sponsoring egypt. this would have a major impact on the region, cheryl. cheryl: mohammed morsi set to go on trial. do you think this is tied to the fact he will be going on trial? >> absolutely, that is part of it. this is what is happening right now. if you read the "washington post," "the new york ti

that's not even good enough because you have people who was a guantanamo bay detainee who's been with usama bin laden since the '80s, went with him from afghanistan to sudan, back to afghanistan, and when he was handed over back to the libyans, he was released by gadhafi before the revolution, he founded ann starral shah arena east of libya, and we no longer call him al-qaeda. [laughter] >> right. >> he's one of the original al-qaeda members, but we want to now say he's a linked group or some kind of associated group. so even having an al-qaeda pedigree that goes back 30, 40 years isn't enough to still get you called al-qaeda today in washington. >> right. >> so -- >> and we spend too much of our time thinking about who is currently planning to attack the united states and not enough time thinking about what capabilities does the global al-qaeda movement have to attack the united states over the long term and what are we doing to address those capabilities. >> and the spread of that ideology. >> and the spread of it. >> so, okay. let's bring it back to afghanistan. seth, i want to put two thing