industry where if they say something unusual, then they notify nert, and nert immediately goes to uscert. they are able to provide protection to the grid under voluntary standards. >> i think that's slightly different if i could. because in those notifications, you have gone out of real-time to now a part where actually wire in the forensics mode so what they're delling is something that has occurred and by the time it gets to uscert can do is not prevent it, but only help them understand it. so the information sharing part that you and others have proposed will take that to a more real-time capability or at least allow that. where they could say i see x happening, until -- they, industry could tell the government that that is occurring, that you could take it to the forensic side to the production side. which i believe is hugely important to the protection of the country. >> that is on information sharing, this is really the key as i understand it that to be if they have the capability of sharing private -- with the government as well as other industries, like industries, then isn't tha