great conversation with nic carter what he said about tether and its usdc and circle is perhaps the crypto economy will move naturally to more regulated, more transparent cryptocurrencies and platforms. >> sort of positioned themselves as heightly regulated u.s.-based version of this. like nic mentioned, tether has become extremely popular in asian markets and it really is still the number one choice for traders looking to get in and out of bitcoin and if you look at a platform like binance or exchanges in asia, a lot of them, a lot of these traders were using tether, though someone i talked to might not want to talk about the fact they're using tether, there is a ton of controversy around it and the idea that, you know, if i need to milwake a bitcoin tra on saturday night, i see a spread or opportunity, tether is the quickest instrument to do that. >> we have been talking about this a ton the whole idea of it is velocity, right? efficiency no one is holding tether to speculate, to make any money, right? what we call the poker chips of the crypto economy an audit, would that really matter