ush the media, they wanted to take their picture. [indiscernible] we took a lot of pictures and i never had trouble with soldiers, they are happy to have the photo. julie's comment really resonated with me. you go with these units and they get to like you, that was exactly the experience in vietnam. it was said at the time or after the war that the press and military were fighting each other and the military said, we will never have the press back. at one level, there was great distrust of the media. while at several levels. the political level, the white house level, the pentagon brass, they were not happy with looking at pictures like nick with taking. and other reporters. why were they unhappy? not because they were an , theate -- an adequate chief and said, do anything you like as long as it is the truth. if you make a mistake, we cannot protect you. we were protected, but they said, we want the truth. but the truth hurts. the kennedy of ministers in, the johnson administration, the nixon and ministers in, they were prevailing amo