as he envisioned this idea, the usia would post the results of the elections as they came in in the windows of its offices, which as you may recall, were under the rex hotel on the ground floor. so the election day came and they set up these charts, these kind of electronic charts in the windows, and the crowds formed to watch the returns come in state by state. and so they did. you would see maine, 12,625 votes nixon, 4,650 for kennedy and so forth. really the crowds were quite enthusiastic as they saw these returns coming in from pennsylvania, ohio, illinois and so forth. derbro was absolutely elated by the response to his project. and he announced in a press conference -- press conference, i mean a minor little group of reporters that were there, that this was a great leap forward toward democracy in vietnam. i later interviewed one of the vietnamese in the crowd, and i told them that i was gratified that the vietnamese had been converted to american democracy by this observation of the electoral process. he said, what do you mean electoral process? we were just betting on the numbers. .