he's helping utah, senator mike lee is helping utah. that are working every day to make utah -- make sure utah has what it needs to move through this pandemic. >> lieutenant governor, thanks for taking the time. we wish you and the people in utah the best of luck. >> thank you. >>> a drug trial in chicago is showing promising results fighting coronavirus. especially among severely ill patients. we're going to speak with a principle investigator leading a similar trial on this same drug in cleveland ahead. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist. nothing stronger. nothing gentler. nothing lasts longer. flonase sensimist. 24 hour non-drowsy allergy relief that's why working together ist more important than ever. at&t is committed to keeping you connected. so you can keep your patients cared for. your customers served. your students inspired. and your employees closer than ever. our network is resilient. our people are strong. our job is to keep your business connecte

we also have the utah national guard. thee purchasing on governor's office of management and budget, and other stakeholders. correlate with the federal government at this level. we have a fema representative who sit in the state emergency operations center with us, with whom we correspond every day. the level 1 activation is an opportunity for us to leverage resources. level 1 means we now have the ability to draw upon state resources as well as federal resources. we will be putting forward the state's major disaster declaration to the president. for will open opportunities us to use resources at the federal level, logistics and also physical responsibilities that can assist all of us at the federal level. , this opportunity to work side-by-side with the department of health as well as every stakeholder on the five -- on the private side and public side in the emergency operations center is the opportunity we need to have flexibility and make progress in every area. the governor covered our priorities in the operation cen

other state examples we re across utah. other state examples were just as across utah.y forged a partnership with rutgers university working closely with the fda. they've authorised saliva based tests that are being deployed just at that site that's expanding their ability to track what continues to bea ability to track what continues to be a very challenging environment in newjersey. governor mike parsons of missouri also told us how they'd work with google marketplace to create an online portal for more than 200 companies in missouri who have repurposed their manufacturing lines to create medical supplies to meet their need within the state and in connecticut, governor ned lamont spoke about the positive trends in connecticut which has really been at the centre of the outbreak. but he also said they were hoping to double testing over the next week. mr bragg is in it, that'sjust a sample testing over the next week. mr bragg is in it, that's just a sample of what we for today —— mr president. i know it's an encouragement to you andi know it's an encouragement to you and

but the practical application once they move out to utah. so it keeps going until utah not sure to the extent of what they are doing because the minister of the council so they only see the nauvoo portion and hopefully someday we can see in utah that might be an even more exciting one. my question is why did joseph smith elevates like john bennett they all become big shots. what was the fondness for such characters? pack he wasn't always the best guess for the movement. if he is fascinating he kind of sets everything on fire and then has one of the accounts that haven't been fully reckoned with. i think joseph smith was smitten by those that seem powerful, charismatic and can add their voices. a very pragmatic in those terms and there are a number of men in 18391840 that are connected in the political and military establishment that present themselves and he's anxious to not only embraced them but to empower them because they are evidence of the truth is not just pulled from the society. now, john bennett is an important example because he a

>> yes. >> decided to pop the question, in true utah form, chose a mountain to do it.he had no idea it was coming? >> no, i got on one knee, asked her and i started balling. she said yes off the bat. >> couldn't believe it when her little brother introduced heidi to the family. >> i was sort of surprised when i first met her, how did he land that girl? such a great match. >> you saw love and chemistry there? >> it was almost awkward. they were definitely an enviable couple. >> another year later came the wedding. >> it was amazing. went up on a chair lift and all the guests left down these slides, just so them. they said their vows and he's doing this champion pose like he was just -- everything was right with the world. >> the enviable couple was just starting out. with a future as bright at their smiles, until that is a sunday evening in september 2012, three years after the trumans were married. >> tell me about that day. >> that day was just like any other day. >> as night fell, heidi decided to take a bath. conrad said he went to the kitchen to get something to ea

cunningham, representative neal dunn and congressman mike kelly of pennsylvania and ben mcadams of utah. fromsixth member joins us his home in miami, representative mario diaz-balart from florida. how are you feeling tonight? ?epresentative diaz-balart i am welcome i feel recovered, i am still weak but other than that i feel pretty well. aeve: this unfolded about month ago. explain what happened, and when you knew you had coronavirus. representative diaz-balart: a month ago it was a different world, congress was open to visitors, tourists, foreign dignitaries. we had regular meetings and hearings, and the last vote of that week was friday evening. is totally healthy but has pre-existing conditions and respiratory issues. so talking to our family doctor i said, i have been dealing with

on the list today, virginia, new york, utah, tennessee, and by may 2nd we will see plans in kansas and other areas to come on board, as well. the president is offering a new defense of these demonstrators. let's watch, and i'll come back to you, kayleigh. >> i've watched some of the protests. not in great detail, but i've seen that. they are separated, a lot of space in between. they are watching, believe it or not. they are doing social distancing, if you can believe it. look, people, they want to get back to work. they've got to make a living. they've got to take care of the family. they don't want to do this. >> harris: however, illinois governor pritzker says the president's support for these rallies, and his opinion, is dangerous. >> i'm very disappointed with the rhetoric and messaging coming from the president. when he tweets out, "liberate michigan, liberate minnesota, liberate virginia," he is fomenting protests. i hate to say that is fomenting some violence. i am very concerned about what

they would not have been able to be utilized and opened up in utah. they will look at some of what the positivity questions are. going throughre our validation process based on the requirements that are put in place so we can ensure iowans that the tests that we are relaying to iowans are accurate and providing the information that we expect. as we get done, what we can do team,ng someone from the or the department of public health can report the process that they went through. but i can assure you that they are taking every measure and every step that they can to make sure that they are doing the validation process accurately and they can feel confident in the results they are reporting out to iowans. i am proud to have it at the state hygienic lab for that reason as well. will the state release counting numbers that show positive tests, negative tests, does every like it day for the state? gov. reynolds: we do. doesn't the state release positive county data? >> where you can get on the web and look at it by county? there is a data visualization on c

. >>> we turn now to one city in utah where it appears things are business as usual. >> near st. george, utah, our cameras captured people going about their daily lives, gathering in park, nail salons and a vape shop, all businesses deemed nonessential in other states. a mean even called abc's kayna whitworth a sheep for wearing a mask. >> for me to see everyone walking around here with no masks on feels bizarre now. >> if you educate yourself and not be a sheep, you would learn what the masks are for. >> utah's governor is asking people to travel only when it is essential. >>> now to your questions about the coronavirus. many people are asking about the anti-malaria drug that's being sent to several states as a possible treatment. earlier i asked dr. imran ali about the concern surrounding the drug. >> i'm seeing things on the ground which are very concerning when it comes to the coronavirus and its effect on the heart. so we always talk about the lungs and inflammatory responses in the lungs, but it's also having some inflammatory responses in the heart. now, hydroxychloroquine

by the end of it all one defining truth place within me like the red rapids of utah. if they could do it then, we sure as hell to do it again. so this book was the product of that journey that i embarked upon common and the route all that time, , throughout the mons traveling across the country to the days and days and weeks and months of sitting in my office beating my head against the wall waiting for something to emerge on the computer screen, two things really kept me pushing forward, kept me focused, stood as these simply the reasons, the reasons why i had to do this. i think number one, i alluded to these already but never one was affect i recognize a huge knowledge gap. if i did know about these things, if i didn't realize that we had so much available to us as americans, , if i didn't understand the history of these have glanced across the country, and i worked in the world, what about everybody else? what about somebody who lived in new york city or l.a.? chatting with friends and family here in michigan and elsewhere i saw there were many of the same gaps as

s, are you with we will go to cheryl in provo, utah on the same line. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: yes. caller: i am calling to validate what your guest is saying. my son has been exposed to the andnavirus by his roommate even though they moved his --ake out, it creates because they cannot move about even though he is in a halfway house, they are locked down. they have to associate with all of these other people who have been infected with coronavirus. host: has there been any discussion in utah about allowing those folks to leave the halfway houses early or come home and be with family? caller: i watched the news all the time and i have not seen one thing said about it. i am going to be calling the governor's office and seeing if i can suggest to them -- there is a place my son could come out and we would bond him or whatever it would take to be able to leave the environment. i want to say one other thing if it's all right? host: go ahead. caller: they are prisoners, they cannot get a job, and yet they are requiring they pay for their go anddy so they can it

it keeps on and so utah. we are not sure to the extent or what they are doing because the minutes for the counselor 50 after they leave nauvoo is restricted so we are still only seeing the nauvoo portion. hopefully we can see the first was once they get out of utah that might be more exciting. >> there is a record of salt lake. my question is why did joseph smith elevate crooks like john c calhoun and joseph jackson and edward bonnie. these guys become big shots, second counselor, what was the fondness for such characters? >> joseph smith was not the best just for the best opportunities for the moment. i will focus on john c bennett. >> i would rather you focus on joseph jackson. >> joseph h jackson is a fascinating vagabond, a guy who sits everything on fire and leaves one of the most revealing accounts of nauvoo that we haven't fully reckoned with. i think joseph smith was smitten by men who seemed powerful, charismatic and could add their voices, he was very pragmatic and there are a number of men in 1839-

utah, your home state. i get with the issues are.as much as it is about how this was done? to the governors need to do something different when they put some of these strict orders in place? >> utah has been a pretty good place. i wouldn't put them in the category of the others. i think governor herbert has actually found a pretty good balance. i think salt lake county has gotten a little too aggressive. >> harris: well, they're protesting today. >> yeah, people are protesting, and they have a constitutional right to do so. i think they would do themselves more favors if they cover their mouths, socially distance at 6 feet, and make sure they wash their hands. i don't think they're doing themselves or the country any favor by showing how getting together in congregations, shoulder to shoulder, that is sort of counterproductive to what they're trying to say. we, as responsible human beings, we have this mantra that should be from coast-to-coast of personal responsibility. in the constitution is a legal document, a guidance that says,

they waited ashore on utah beach. unbeknownst to many of them, they had landed on the wrong sector. they had landed half a mile off course. there was a little bit of uncertainty, perhaps hesitation as to exactly what they should do. theodore roosevelt junior, son of the president, who is the oldest american participant in the invasion, said defiantly we are going to start the war right here. they carried the fight inland to the normandy countryside, where they really began to tally up casualties. the units fought all around mainland europe. they were the first american troops into germany. unfortunately it inflicted a grim toll. the unit suffered about 250% casualties. there is a perpetual stream of wounded, killed, and then replacements, and their placement after that were being wounded and killed. it was a devastating affair, but many of the men in the unit had the firm conviction they needed to do this because there was really no other choice, this was the price of stopping fascism and its spread. as many world war ii veterans say to this very day, it is something that had to be

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i'd hike in utah and hunt in alaska. i would fish in wyoming and backpack in michigan. i would think my feet into the dirt of the very places up for grabs and confront the reality of what the future might look like without them. i made a schedule of destinations for the next year and half, , side the unsuspectig traffic and painted, nuclear, convinced my wife to join some of these trips, cobbled together a plan to report back to my followers, and headed out into the great wide open. over the next 18 months i would come to discover in ever greater detail the ways previous generations of hunters, hikers, campers, and countless other stood up to protect these places. and by the end of it all, one defining truth blaze within me like the red rocks of utah. if they could do it then, we sure as hell could do it again. so this book was the product of that journey that i embarked upon. and route all the time, through the month traveling across the country, days and days, weeks and weeks and months and months of sitting in my office beating my head against the wall waiting for so

of utah. figure it out. on the over the anthills way to the pyramids. just get going. that is what drives all-americans crazy. bureaucrats and politicians getting stuck. if you get stuck, you are going to be runover. a i'm sorry, if you are decision-maker, not someone stuck because they do not have a job. chief page: a yes or no question before we go to questions -- will there be any possibility that we will not have an election day on the second tuesday in november this year? >> no. >> no. the constitution of the united states, the president's term is four years to the day. if we did not have an election, donald trump would be gone. he is gone on january 20. does not matter if we have a president or we don't. it is 14-year term. congress under extreme circumstances can move it a month or two, but i agree with john, it is not going to happen. aief page: first we have question from katrina martin who is from the embassy of the philippines. this question -- do you think it was a good move for pr

it is interesting that terry mentioned the state of utah. it is not exactly a bastion of liberalism, the state of utah. [laughter] so i think it can work and just get a valid and figure it out. you know, everybody is just -- we trip over the sand hills on the way to the pyramids. just get going. that is the thing that drives all-americans crazy, the bureaucrats and politicians are just stuck. get unstuck. this is not the time to be stuck. if you are stuck, you are going to be run over. i'm sorry, if you are a decision-maker, not somebody who is stuck because they do not have a job, i want to be clear about that. susan: yes or no -- is there any possibility that we will not have election day on the second tuesday in november this year? mr. kasich: no. mr. mcauliffe: no. and ambassadors should also understand that the constitution of the united states, the president's term is four years to the day. if we did not have an election, donald trump would be gone. so the idea that he can move things around -- he is going on january 20, it does not ma

in utah, the governor told us he employees to state do contact tracing in their state. in the last 36 hours, 23,000 residents have also signed up for what they are calling they healthy together app. they have 50 different testing locations across utah and have tested 82,000 people in the state already. other state examples were just as inspiring. governor murphy of new jersey has forged a partnership with records university, working closely with the fda. they have authorized a saliva based test being deployed at that site that is expanding their ability to track what continues to be a very challenging environment in new jersey. governor parsons of missouri also told us how they worked with google marketplace to create an online portal for more than 200 companies in missouri who have repurposed their manufacturing lines to create medical supplies to meet the need within the state. and in connecticut, the governor spoke about the positive trend lines in connecticut, which has really been at the center of the outbreak in the greater new york area. he also said they were ho

in utah, the governor told us he devoted 12 hundred state employees to do contact tracing. last 36 hours, 23,000 residents have signed up for what they are calling their healthy together app. they have 50 different testing locations across utah and have tested 82,000 people already. were juste examples as inspiring. governor phil murphy of new partnershiporged a with rutgers university working closely with the fda. salivave authorized a based test that is being deployed at the site. that is expanding their ability to track what continues to be a challenging environment in new jersey. governor mike parson of missouri told us how they have worked with google marketplace to create an online portal for more than 200 companies in missouri who have repurposed their manufacturing lines to create medical supplies to meet andr need within the state -- with the state. in connecticut, governor ned lamont spoke about positive trendlines, which has been at the center of the outbreak in the greater new york area. he said they were hoping to double testing over the next week. that is just

the heat is building across utah and salt lake city but we're watching these severe storms across the southern plains things will start to ramp up once again this afternoon all the way into wednesday now an enhanced risk of deveer storms i think from oklahoma city, even the dallas area could see damaging wind gusts. also a little bit of hail and a few tornadoses that will strip all the way up to the chicago area into the areas of the midwest. it's going to pull temperatures m oklahoma city to little rock today, even san antonio to el paso in the lower 90s. so it's kind of hard to stay inside for the southwest but make sure you practice that social distancing and have a lot of water today >> great advice there. >> a lot of water especially in phoenix where it's over 100. >>> an injured bald eagle was found in a flooded area in minnesota and local police were quick to respond the officers subdued it using a blanket and took it to a rehabilitation center. minnesota is known for having one of the largest populations of nesting bald eagles in the united states. >> if that's not a symbol fo

in ogden utah and huntington alaska. on fish and wyoming and backpacked in michigan. i'd stick my feet into the dirt of the very places up for grabs. nine would confront the reality of what the future might look like without them. amanda scheduled tufted nice destinations for next year and a half and sign up unsuspecting travel companions about new gear, given to my wife to join me on some of these trips. in a plan to report back to my followers and headed out to the great big wide open. over the next 18 months, i would come to discover greater detail, the way previous generations of hunters, hikers, campers and countless others stood up to protect these places. by the end of it all, when defining truth blazes and me, if they could do it then, we sure as can do it again. so this book, was a product of that journey that i embarked upon. and throughout all the time, in the months of traveling across the country through the days and days and weeks and months of sitting in my office and beating my head against the wall waiting for something to emerge on the commute comput

the presiding officer: the senator from utah. mr. lee: mr. president, it's with a heavy heart that i come to the floor of the senate today. over the last few weeks i've talked to countless people throughout utah and across the nation, but especially in utah about the troubles that they have encountered, about the profound sadness that the american people are experiencing right now, the frustrations that they have. this is something that we've never seen in this country, not on this scale, not during our lifetimes. my thoughts and prayers go out to my fellow americans and my fellow utahns as they're struggling to make ends meet, whether it's figuring out how to make payroll or keep food on the table at home or a combination of both, as it is for so many. i'm mindful of them. and of all the difficulty that the american people are going through right now. i want to begin by echoing something that senator schumer said a moment ago. we need to do what we were elected to do. although i don't agree with everything senator schumer just said, and in f

it was some of the first amphibious troops who were ashore and they waded ashore on utah beach. unbeknownst to many of them at that time they had landed on the wrong sector. they had landed about half a mile off course, and there was a bit of uncertainty, perhaps hesitation as to what exactly they should do. but the assistant division commander, theodore roosevelt, jr., son of the president who was the oldest american participant in ininvasion said very defiantly we're going to start the war right here, and indeed that is what they did. they carried the fight inland into the normandy countryside where they really began to tally up casualties. they fought all throughout mainland europe, and they were the first american troops into germany. but unfortunately it inflicted a very grim toll, the unit in its entiry throughout the war suffered about 250% casualties. there are replacements and sometimes replacements after that were being killed and wounded as well. so it was an absolutely devastating affair, but many of the men in the unit had the firm conviction that they needed to do

which means we're going to get a hit on product utah.ng to sacrifice efficiency for resilience. and, three, we're going to have a massive entanglement of the government in the private sector. we've got to figure out ways to restart the economy to make sure that these longer term issues, the ones that enable us to have a good peace or a bad peace, that we deal with them as well. so it is an engineering challenge. i think we're up to it, but we've got to start on this really quickly. gerry: i want to come on to those longer-term issues, as you say, product utah. but just in the immediate future, key how quickly we can get people back to work, businesses open again is testing, right? we need to know who has had the virus, who is um moon from the virus, and we've got to move quickly on that. and if we can, presumably, then people who are immune or have had the virus or are at very low risk can go back to work. >> yes, absolutely. you really need to have three things, but you can restart with two. the first one is an ability to identify and c

and someone from park city utah, that is unusual. matt is from a lovely place and it is nice to have heard his introduction. thank you for inviting me to join you and your colleagues. >> we are thrilled to have you. we have all been cooped up for several weeks and if you're like me, you are inundated with atormation, news that looks every angle of what is happening with the response to covid-19. i want to elevate the conversation to talk about american leadership during this time of crisis and what we can learn moving forward? you think about every major global crisis of the past wars, theoth world cold war, the great depression, the global war on terror, the economic crisis of 2008, and a host of others, the rest of the world looked to the united states to lead the way out. now, itally though looks as if in this crisis we are playing catch up in a lot of ways to the rest of the world and how we are responding. i wonder, i would love to get your thoughts on that. are we playing catch up or are we poised to provide the leadership unit

chief officer for intermountain health care in salt lake city, utah. we are testing 65% of those getting tested in our communities right now and of the surgeon is fairly small in our community. >> not much of a problem relative to others. >> yeah. and we know that this is going to be a dynamic situation and we appreciate the opportunity to collaborate with the federal government and with our colleagues. we think flex building is very important. -- flexibility is very important. the antibody tests. are using that to -- >> we are exploring that right now. we want to be careful about how we deploy that. it might not yet be time for antibody testing because we do not have many exposures yet. >> how many do you have in your community? it is relatively small. >> relatively small and gives us concerned about what happens if we relax. >> great job. the president and ceo of lifepoint health. operate eight hospitals and 29 states and small communities. we applaud the efforts of your administration on dispersing $30 billion quickly. our ask is that we continue to

because she was in california, in 1860s when persimmon is estate, she was in utah during the utah warand in fact one of the wives, published a poem in the news and was addressed to basically louisa into other women there with the army. like two of the wives. like how dear you. how you come to her land. sanskrit material. but i only had one letter in her own voice and it was from later in the war. i think, one of the things that you choose who to write about, you don't necessarily need to have everything. but you need have something. because she was married to a pretty senior officer in the u.s. army, i can talk about her neck and tracker in a newer she was. other soldiers talked about her. so i i can sort of find her in e documents and because she led this effort to nurse the soldiers, they wrote about her, the culture the angel of santa fe. in santa fe newspaper printed a piece sort upon her although .they were a little skeptical because she was helping the enemy. so lazy but she seemed too nice. like she seems like to be true. don't try to figure out kind of angles on her that would

the presiding officer: the senator from utah. mr. lee: mr.resident, it's with a heavy heart that i come to the floor of the senate today. over the last few weeks i've talked to countless people throughout utah and across the nation, but especially in utah about the troubles that they have encountered, about the profound sadness that the american people are experiencing right now, the frustrations that they have. this is something that we've never seen in this country, not on this scale, not during our lifetimes. my thoughts and prayers go out to my fellow americans and my fellow utahns as they're struggling to make ends meet, whether it's figuring out how to make payroll or keep food on the table at home or a combination of both, as it is for so many. i'm mindful of them. and of all the difficulty that the american people are going through right now. i want to begin by echoing something that senator schumer said a moment ago. we need to do what we were elected to do. although i don't agree with everything senator schumer just said, and in fac

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does, and tennessee and utah have better government services the new york does.o why in the world should people in utah or tennessee have to bailout the people in states like new york, and connecticut, new jersey, it just isn't fair, it's not good federalism policy, if new york and connecticut want to spend a lot of money and have massive pension problems, which they do, why in the world should people in other states have to bail them out? i just don't understand the logic. >> dana: talk to me about that, in terms of the pensions. >> let me just reply. this has nothing to do with pension obligations. that's just not factual. number two, i love how steve talks about state and local, but actually, new york is in that giver to the federal government. kentucky and these other red states actually are net payers. for someone who is a physical hawk, it's amazing that he's not looking at what states actually give to the federal government versus those who take, and i think the interesting thing that steve said -- >> dana: let's give them a chance to answer that. >> look,

i know where he went, he actually left new mexico and was a surveyor general very briefly of utah.as actually in salt lake when the transcontinental when the golden spike was hammered in. i can't document that he is actually that he was actually at the ceremony but he was nearby. he was obsessed with railroad so i would be surprised if he was there but then he went east and ended up working for a kansas railroad company as a lansurveyor and unfortunately died of cancer but when he was older and had this very long and fulfilling career. i think i've done enough of the good biographical work here to scratch that itch and help you get to know him. and those full-scale biographies are a little hard he sort of you want the person and he office he does he has catches a lot of different points. like when he leaves, spoiler alert, when he leaves in 1868 to go back to dc, he decides he's going to go home but he's gonna drop by dc first so he can attend the impeachment trial of andrew johnson. he is like okay yeah that's gonna be interesting. i don't think i will write a whole different book

biography of him i know where he went, he left mexico it was the attorney general very briefly of utah but then when the transcontinental came in. i can't document he was there at the ceremony but he is nearby. so i wouldn't be surprised if he was there but then he went east and worked for a kansas railroad company and ultimately he died of cancer when he was older after a very long and fulfilling career. i think i have done enough of the biographical work to scratch that itch. i hope you got to know him. and the full-scale biography little hard. obviously he does touch a lot of different points but then here is a spoiler alert, when he leaves in 1860 to go back to does the on - - dc the things he will go home but then stop e at dc first to attend the impeachment trial. [laughter] so that will be interesting. but there is more to learn and with people like this. but they are actually fascinating. >> or how did you select those characters? >> some i just knew because they single-handedly would decide. so he gets it done. so then to successfully occupy to force the surrender ofit union t