university of utah. if you put your mind to it, you can certainly make a change. jeff, we want to welcome you to utah. first manufacturing plant in the united states in 40 years is head quartered south of the ty procter & gamble there. i heard you say, think twice, amy, that with people coming into thestates, getting degrees in technology, math, science, we ought to attach a visa to them or a green card of some kind, and certainly maybe that's something we ought to consider doing. but the more important question, i think, is why is it we cannot grow our own? why don't we have of our own students coming in. why kabt we grow up from th well, i think we need to do both, right? so i think we need to attract the world's best talent into the united states, and if we've of that in the past, then we need to continue to do that. the question on why are we not doing it, growing our own stem -- science, technology math -- talents at home, i think that ours broken. i don't think it's working, i don't think that's the headlines to anybody in this room. i'm sure all the governors are spending a lot of time working on k through 12 education. i think there are di