utico's case, as your sister talks about, exposed many flaws.fication. i mean, according to the report, he was handcuffed, already, a flashlight in his face for 15 minutes. he said, himself, that they were trying to get him to identify him and at that time, louisiana allowed criminal convictions without even a unanimous verdict. and then, ya had bad lawyering, as he's spoken about. so, i mean, was the justice system just totally stacked against utico? >> it was, 100%, stacked. and you listed the trifecta of things that contributed to his wrongful wrongful conviction, and i will say that when my sister asked me to look at this case, initially, i was reluctant only because i don't have a bar card. i had never -- in louisiana, i had never been there. and i thought, well, what could i possibly do? but then, i realized, about ten minutes into reviewing this case, i just knew with this really sickening certainty that he was innocent. and that was, basically, the next two years of all of our lives was proving that that was true. and i will say, that th