so, again they are not only younger, they are not utilizeers. moving on to page 6. what you will see here is looking at the admits per thousand. there has been a decrease in the rate of admits moving from 83.2 percent to 65.2 percent. i'm sure doctor will agree, 83.2 percent is a high average. given it's a ppo model, you watch it. however, one of the things that is noted is that because of the low membership, you have a lot of variability in the rates from year to year. and that's why you see some variability between reporting periods. one of the things again drawing out . heche just to add to the discussion had no admits in the last 3/4. >> on slide it should be 65.2. >> yes. i'm sorry. there was an error. >> these are admissions into the er. if we move on to page 7. 9 days per thousand. this again is reflected of the small enrollment, but if you compare it to your other two health plans, you will notice that blue shield is at 169 and kaiser 185. so what does that mean? if you would set uhs is the baseline, you would find if they would make blue shield the baseline