well, that was utopia. what about the real world? to discuss that question we are delighted that we have an all-star panel of experienced policymakers who, between them, in my rough calculation, have something like 50 or so years of experience making policy, not for utopia, but for the united states government. [laughter] and to lead us in the discussion of this crucial issue, we are thrilled that we have william inboden who in is himself a foreign policy all-star, and also who we are proud to say is a fellow with our religious freedom project excellent introduce will. he's assistant professor at the lbj school of public affairs, and distinguished scholar at the strata center for international security and law at the university of texas austin. is also a nonresident fellow at the german marshall fund of the united states, previously he served as senior vice president of the institute, and a senior director for strategic planning on the national security council at the white house. is also worked at the department of state as an of of

well, that was utopia. what about the real world? to discuss that question, we are delighted that we have an all star panel of experienced policymakers who between them in my rough calculation have something like 50 or so years of experience making policy, not for utopia but for the united states government. and to lead us in the discussion of this crucial issue, we are thrilled that we have william boden who is himself a foreign policy all star and also who we're proud to say is a fellow with our religious freedom project. so let me introduce will. he is assistant professor at the lbj school of public affairs and distinguished scholar at the strauss center for international security and law at the university of texas austin. he is also a nonresident fellow at the german marshal fund of the united states, previously he served as senior vice president of the lagatum institute and senior director for strategic planning on the national security council at the white house. will has also worked at the department of state as a member of th

that drives us to utopia? >> we're in utopia but how far to want to go down this path? could great dr. thomas seoul on my program this week and last question was dr. coming will be a constitutional republic in 100 or 20 years? he said, speaking for myself, if we lose the next election, we are not. if you talk to walter williams he says it is over. i guess i am saying if you listen to ronald reagan this is a place to listen to him and he is my last quote in the book. not pollyanna optimism but optimism. he says in the first inauguration january 1981, paraphrasing, these things are not inevitable. we can take steps to try to begin to turn them around. but if we don't, then they are inevitable. that is right. there are plans out there whether demint, rand paul, paul ryan with serious efforts to start the process to gradually unravel. here is the problem. have to many americans surrendered or bought by entitlements? they are capable of providing for themselves. for those two pinto what happens to them more for those who believe in the american in spirit to have the mind-set

utopia. >> we're in utopia. the question is how far do we want to go down this path and where's it going to take us? i had thomas sull on my program this week, wednesday. and my last question was dr. saul, are we going to be a constitutional republic in 10 or 20 or 30 years or what? and he said and i'm speaking for myself, not the reagan library -- and he said and he said if we lose the next election, we're not. if you talk to walter williams, he says, it's over. i guess what i'm saying is, if you listen to ronald reagan, and this is the place to listen to him and he's my last quote in the book, and i always turn to him for some optimism, not pollyanna phony optimism but optimism. and he says in the first inauguration in january 1981 and i paraphrase, he said -- these things are not inevitable. we can take steps to try and begin to turn them around. but if we don't, then they are inevitable. and that's right. there's some plans out there, whether it's paul ryan or and rand paul that are serio

it's utopia is place where anybody can get a gun and carry it virtually anywhere. this is and what we're seeing in florida, tragedies like there are the manifestation of what happens in the nra's utopia. it's two different vision offense america. there's the vision that the people have that want to protect themselves and live in safety and there's the vision of the gun lobby representing an industry that wants to make carrying guns more permissible and envisions a society where people like zimmerman are walking around with guns. >> what in florida took place that led to the passing of the stand your ground law or is this just some stuff coming from gun enthuse yiss that think they have to protect themselves or give them license to do something like this? >> it's lobbying. it's out shouted the will and even more importantly undermine the state of the of the american people. >> so we're not a series of news events that brought it to the point this law has to be implemented? were there people that campaigned on this? >> i'm sure there were. i would imagine if it was t

but the idea that all the other utopia knows how becomes accredited. they became the repository fro the energy that once was falling at the postcolonial struggle or communism or socialism or any other number of political movement. and i hope i emphasized this in the book, but there many advantages to this in the way in which now understanding these issues in terms of right as reflected maturity and modesty and a sense. we can't change the regime, but we can at least make sure it doesn't violate a certain set of rights. we may not be a little change the world to know exactly what to do in each context, but we can at least make sure things don't get to that family's push discrete improvements. that's the real strength of the human rights movement and i want to emphasize that. but i also want to say that i hope there is room for thinking more comprehensively and that night saying it's probably a good thing that the current agitation in india isn't the right is focused on corruption. that is the difference that is needed fair. and of course something like

but that was utopia. what about the real world? to discuss that question, we are delighted that we have an all- star panel of experience policymakers who have something like 50 or so years experience between them making policy, not for utopia, but for the united states government. [laughter] and to lead us in the discussion of this crucial issue, we are thrilled to have willem oden was himself a policy all-star and who is a fellow with their religious freedom project. he is assistant professor at the lbj school public affairs and a distinguished scholar for international security and law at the university of texas austin. is a fellow with the german marshall fund of the united states. he is referred as the of senior vice president of the love got to institute and senior director for strategic planning on the security council at the white house. he has also worked at the department of state as a member of the policy planning staff and as a special adviser in the office of international religious freedom and also had significant expe

it has been diluted down to a museums' car park or an academy of science car park, a drive in utopian we're trying to get people out of their cars. we drive everywhere. we don't have to get out of our cars. we don't even have to look for a parking spot. we have a grosz built right into the carriage concourse -- we have a garage built right into the carriage concourse. yet we are getting run over and it should be non motorized. once again, 180 degrees from where we should be. we drove carriages in that park and around the concourse for over 100 years, a perfect example of classical, non- motorized, non-fossil fuel dependent transportation. what do we see going around there now? zero of that type of activity. of that type of community. because we have had our community stolen and it has been occupied by you people, who really do not belong here. except politically, you belong here, because you are living in the past. retribution for a past you don't like. you don't like history. but i tell you what, it's coming to bite you back. thank you very much. >> is there anyone else who would li

it could be on another continent, a place called utopia, maybe. perhaps not a real place. >> more than happy to do whatever the commission wishes. chairperson campos: if i may, commissioners, whether it is at a meeting today or subsequent to the meeting, if you want to have a follow-up discussion with mr. fried, i want to make sure he is able to follow up on the specific issues or concerns that you may have. if there is something specifically that you think it is important that he looked at, if you can make sure that you let him know, whether it is today or any subsequent meetings, we want to make sure the questions that the commissioners want answered are, in fact, answered. just a reminder that the point of this exercise by lafco is to provide information and make sure we have data that sheds light on this discussion. i think it makes sense to include the system the commissioner avalos raised. it makes sense to look at it. supervisor mar: i would be interested in how voting rights organizations look at how the systems impact is in french should

the nra's utopia is a place where anybody can get a gun and carry it virtually anywhere.is -- and what we are seeing in florida, tragedies like this, are the manifestation of what happens in the nra's utopia. it is two different visions of america, the vision that the people have that want to protect themselves, that want to live in safety. as parents we want to raise our children in safety and then there's the vision of the gun lobby representing an industry that wants to make carrying guns more permissible and envisions a society where people like zimmerman are walking around with guns. >> what in florida took place that led to the passing of the stand your ground law? or is this a template of stuff coming from gun enthusiasts that think they have to protect themselves or give them license to maybe even go and do something like this? >> it is lobbying, it is good, old-fashioned lobbying. it is lobbying of an industry that to this point has out shouted the will and the safety of the american people? not a series of news events that transpired that brought it to the point

now, the problem is that these notions of utopia are not utopia at all. their notions -- the idea, i thought when i started this, that the greatest country on the face of the earth, which has created more wealth for more people than any society ever, more liberties for more people than any society ever, is such a civil society because our constitution is such a magnificent document. why would we surrender these things? on the fantasies and hopes and claims. so basically that's why i wrote this book. [applause] >> host: you mentioned the word statism, and if there's a word that you have success any brought back into the american lexicon, that it. statism. define ameritopia for me. >> guest: i got to thinking, after i go through a lot of these philosophies -- this is a book based on political philosophy and at the end it all comes together. i tie it all together. and the bottom line was, i got to thinking, and i ended

we will take you to utopia next in the war room.ed something they are touching each other in a wholesome way. my idea is newt drops out of the race. these states drop out of america. they join forces and form newtopia, the land of big ideas where you can get gas for 250 a gallon and all of the hot air you want for free, newtopia the places where a man and a woman and whoever that man is cheating on the woman with. who needs a bald eagle when it is the caly psi cgingrich. newt more. look at all of the newts. the capital is the mooven. above the state capitol, the flag flies proudly. newt gingrich will streamline everything. a visual representation of how the u.s. government works. here is how it works in newtopia. very simple. let's make it happen. after all, these states have already divorced america once before. i am thinking they would be doing it again. i am done talking now. away to the moon. the face of newtopia! >> thank you brett. in what may be the most anticipated history, the game change finally, airs this weekend, a film

substantially cheaper than us so to me it feels like the task is not to jump all of this but some utopiae have a messy reality with the government and markets working together. let's fix it. >> that is the role that you have played for us. things that work and hopefully we can try some of them here. i'm looking forward to the fareed zakaria special that airs on sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> well, you know will i. am but there is a range and devotion to doing his part to help creation and innovation in this country. i'll sit down with will i. am next on "nyour money." and hurtle us all into space, which would render retirement planning unnecessary. but say the sun rises on december 22nd and you still need to retire, td ameritrade's investment consultants can help you build a plan that fits your life. we'll even throw in up to $600 when you open a new account or roll over an old 401(k). so who's in control now, mayans? i care about my car because... i think it's a cool car. i think it's stylish and it makes a statement at the same time. and i've never had a car like that. people do

this makes the process sound like the mythic utopia of days gone by. it has not been that easy. the last long term highway bill to be signed in law was in 2005. it expired in 2009. that is a couple years ago. congress has been getting by with short term stop-gap measures ever since. the highway bill might be the mascot for washington gridlock. today, in the senate, with 17 days to go lf the last stop-gap runs out, a two year highway bill passed. hallelujah, by a lot. the bill got 74 votes. still has to get through the house and that is where the problem is, how speaker john boehner has been trying to pass his own highway bill, trying and failing. two separate house versions have failed to win the support of the majority of members. at this point he seems near to giving up. he said he would take the senate bill or something like it if republicans can't agree on their own bill. it's anyone's guess if they will come behind the bill. the pressure is most certainly on. >> we are, i think now, about two weeks away from a total shut down. the house is away this week, they come back. th

kind of mixed messy system is what we have and our task is not really to abolish it in favor of a utopia, but favor it so americans can get good care like so much of the rest of the world.

messy health care system is what we have, and our task is not really to abolish it in favor of a utopia

messy health care system is what we have, and our task is not really to abolish it in favor of a utopiarove it so that americans can get good care at reasonable prices, like so much of the rest of the world. thanks for tuning in to this gps special. you can read more of my thoughts in "time" magazine and you can always catch my regular show on sundays at 10:00 a.m. and 1:00

messy health care system is what we have, and our task is not really to abolish it in favor of a utopiabut to improve it so that americans can get good care at reasonable prices, like so much

so to me it feels like the task is not to junk all this and say there's some utopia out there that'sd in any actual human society. rather to say, look, we've got a messy reality with the government and markets working together. let's fix it. >> and that is the role that you play for us for cnn. you have traveled the world and researched systems, health care and otherwise, things that work and hopefully we can try some of them here. fareed zakaria, gps, the special is sunday at 8:00 p.m. >>> you know will.i.am but the black eyed pea -- i'll sit down with him next. [ male announcer ] if you believe the mayan calendar, on december 21st, polar shifts will reverse the earth's gravitational pull and hurtle us all into space, which would render retirement planning unnecessary. but say the sun rises on december 22nd and you still need to retire, td ameritrade's investment consultants can help you build a plan that fits your life. we'll even throw in up to $600 when you open a new account or roll over an old 401(k). so who's in control now, mayans? music. and the confidence to win. [ male ann

the internet is not a utopia. it reflects the good and the bad. i worry about three things i want to briefly mentioned. the first is the internet was built -- we did not think they would show up. honestly. i know. we were in graduate school, right? the inherent vulnerability is in our design will exist for at least another decade. it is a huge task and except for military networks, every single modem on the web will need to be upgraded with new technology. the biggest problem is going to be activity stemming from nations that seek to do harm to others. it is very difficult to identify the source of a cyber criminality. problem #two -- the fact that there is no relief button on the internet as policy problems and we do not understand. the public's right to know and the very important right of individual privacy. you have a situation were false and accusations used to fade away, but now they remain forever. i certainly hope that ranking and other things like that will emerge that distinguish between truth and falsehood and will allow people to start

violent pass who was issued a concealed is carry permit in a state that is basically the gun lobby's utopiao make florida this way. >> florida rated 3 out of 100. >> i will believe it's changed when had i see a single senior democrat come out in favor of strong legislation. >> the only way that happens is when the american people express their outrage. i believe it's focused enough to create that scenario. the other thing we should point out, there is now a bill pending in the united states senate, already passed the house of representatives what they called concealed carry reciprocity act which basically forces states to honor other states concealed carry laws. so under this legislation, this guy, george zimmerman, the poster child of the gun lobby, is able today if this law were passed would be able to bring his gun to times square in new york or other states legally. we need to -- this is a moment where there's actually -- they've gone too far. they're actually proposing, days after this tragedy occurred, they will the gall to propose this legislation. we can't use this is moment to hold

that's blood utopia. another one there were a man in people. what he meant, there were a muslim people. he noticed that there were getting religion. of course started studying. religious people all over. but then he saw one thing. the africans did not produce with the need. there is no idea compound accumulation of the beginnings of capitalism. the original idea, as we know. many get a very wealthy, but you produced what you need. the africans did that. a lot of time of leisure, but they also worked. he saw something in that by studying africa and by bringing these africans. they were india's human beings. in the end he wrote, we must ask ourselves, who are the greater savages, and we come to the answer, it is the europeans who much better about to take people from their continent. he had the tremendous idea of bringing all these. started writing pamphlets and corresponding with patrick henry. he said patrick henry, give me liberty, give me death. he said some books. he wrote back. dear friend, i thank you. this is revealing. i agree with every

canada, for example, should be the utopia republicans pray for. in canada they produce more oil than they consume. and yet their prices are just as high as ours. and their people are complaining about the high price of gasoline as well. so when we hear republicans say reduce -- produce more oil, they are doing with all copies want but it's not going to reduce the price of gasoline. energy economists tell us that the republican plan does not even remotely possible to reduce the price of gasoline. they will have zero effect on gasoline prices. so we need to face reality. and the reality is that oil prices are determined on a global market, and no matter how much we drill here, are gasoline prices are going to rise if there's a crisis in the middle east, a fear about disruption from iran, if there's a labor unrest in nigeria. if opec sees there's too much oil and they decide to reduce supply. and the demand increases. china and in india. so there's only one way we can protect ourselves from the impact of rising oil prices, and that's if we reduce our

priced based on what the world price is rid canada should be the a tapia -- canada should be the utopiahe republicans would pray for parrott their prices are just as high as ours. when the republicans say produce more oil, doing what the oil companies want, but will not reduce the price of gasoline. energy economists tell us the republican plan is not even remotely possible to reduce the price of gasoline. it will have no effect on gasoline prices. we need to face the reality, and the reality is that will prices are determined on a global market and the matter how much we drill here, gasoline prices are going to rise if there is a crisis in the middle east, a fear about disruption from iran, labor unrest in nigeria. and the demand is increasing. in china and india. there's only one way we can protect ourselves from the impact of rising oil prices and that is if we reduced our demand for oil. that brings us to another energy challenge that we face. we have to invest in clean energy to diversify and reduce our energy use. we're locked in a competition with china, and other countries, and