we were not war fighters, uyghur estimators. -- we were estimators. how much would it cost to defeat the iraqi army and be out six months later? we gave a number that turned out to be very much on the mark. larry had a more macro idea. this would not be world war ii or vietnam. that was not the supposition at the time. >> we are up to $700 million at least. what is your opinion on that? >> i am not going to second- guess anybody decision, either at the outset or along the way. i will say that it has had profound consequences. it is the single biggest reason why the last election was lost, just the fatigue of at all. it was turning around, but not in time to make it obvious. $700 billion is a lot of money. there are some things that people so easily forget. i was in many, many meetings after september 11, national security council homeland security council. the only question was, where and when will the next attack be? there was no doubt in anyone's mind. no one there would have ever forecast for dare to forecast we go another eight years without an am