. >> v.p. adams: i support you, staff, 100%. my grandmother wit would say, ar kancan't move in neutral. i'm going to support this, but my reservations is that we kicked this can down this road. we keep doing the same thing and getting the same results. i don't know of our history, the shipyard has come and gone, but i'm willing to try one more thyme. vigor i know well. they play games. i kind of like -- i'm looking for a backup plan. i'll support this one more time. but we'll get to a point, we have to have a painful discussion and we have to move forward. i have to ask you where is larry mazole in the unions. what going on with the city? different wages. there are a lot of variables there. >> i can answer that question. mr. mazola is a lead of the metal trades which is 13 bargaining units all of which had employees at the shipyard. he's been incredibly helpful to port staff as has the entire council of the bay city metal trades. they understand, like you vice president adams, that the economics changed to the shipyard. we've me