v.p. stephenson: any discussion on the president's welcome? let's open up to public comment please. >> clerk: vice president stephenson and president ahn we'll have see if we can have commissioner wald to call in to participate. just one moment. commissioner wald, can you hear us? >> commissioner wald: can you hear me? >> clerk: we can hear you. given the technical set up, it will be best we unmute you whenever we have a discussion on an agenda item. we'll start to count you as part of the quorum. thank you very much. >> commissioner wald: thank you for your help and charles. >> v.p. stephenson: let's move to public comment. >> clerk: we will begin with public comment here in the room. once public comment has concluded we'll proceed to remote public comment. we will proceed to remote public comment. members of the public who wish to make public comment on this item, please press star 3. we do have pair callers in the queue. you have three minutes. >> caller: david pilpel again. i appreciate the follow-up on the last item. the meeting is still n

v.p. stephenson: any discussion on the president's welcome? let's open up to public comment please. >> clerk: vice president stephenson and president ahn we'll have see if we can have commissioner wald to call in to participate. just one moment. commissioner wald, can you hear us? >> commissioner wald: can you hear me? >> clerk: we can hear you. given the technical set up, it will be best we unmute you whenever we have a discussion on an agenda item. we'll start to count you as part of the quorum. thank you very much. >> commissioner wald: thank you for your help and charles. >> v.p. stephenson: let's move to public comment. >> clerk: we will begin with public comment here in the room. once public comment has concluded we'll proceed to remote public comment. we will proceed to remote public comment. members of the public who wish to make public comment on this item, please press star 3. we do have pair callers in the queue. you have three minutes. >> caller: david pilpel again. i appreciate the follow-up on the last item. the meeting is still n

v.p. stephenson: you know what years those were? >> i don't know exactly what year that hiring was done. [ indiscernible ] >> it's the hiring manager that works with our hr analyst to develop a hiring panel. we abide by the hr's requirement for having a diverse panel and the skill sets that are required to be qualified for the position that's hired for. it is a recommendation to seek outside people to sit on your hiring panel from other departments or outside organizations with expertise relative to the position they are hiring for. in this case, i think it was a perception thing of having someone that you're ultimately responsible for working with for regulating or developing policy for sitting on that hiring panel for the position that are actually going to be helping to implement or develop those policies. i think it's a much cleaner break to stop that for all contracts in general that there's a perceived conflict of interest when it comes to sitting on a panel. by having that interest, you maybe steered in wanting to hire a part

v.p. stephenson: any discussion on the president's welcome? let's open up to public comment please. >> clerk: vice president stephenson and president ahn we'll have see if we can have commissioner wald to call in to participate. just one moment. commissioner wald, can you hear us? >> commissioner wald: can you hear me? >> clerk: we can hear you. given the technical set up, it will be best we unmute you whenever we have a discussion on an agenda item. we'll start to count you as part of the quorum. thank you very much. >> commissioner wald: thank you for your help and charles. >> v.p. stephenson: let's move to public comment. >> clerk: we will begin with public comment here in the room. once public comment has concluded we'll proceed to remote public comment. we will proceed to remote public comment. members of the public who wish to make public comment on this item, please press star 3. we do have pair callers in the queue. you have three minutes. >> caller: david pilpel again. i appreciate the follow-up on the last item. the meeting is still n

v.p. stephenson: i think that's a good point. i think that in my experience in the operations committee, which i have not been part of the budget discussions for couple of years, generally speaking through progressmatic area, i do see the revenue sources for the major grants that are funding those program areas. i don't think that we ever saw a single comprehensive list of everything all in one line and one page. also think that whatever we adopt in terms -- i think it's a great idea to see all the incoming revenue sources in one place. >> commissioner hunter: i request few different level of review. if we do incur more general funding, i would want to make sure that we understand how much work to take on. to your point earlier on general funding, i think it is the mandate of this commission to now carry for aggressive ask to the board of supervisors and the mayor for general fund. i do not think we'll be in this situation if we got general funding from the city itself. i don't think friends of would need to exist. prior director