because you need a pair of v.r. glasses to be able to watch something in v.r.i think they're waiting for these other platforms to come out. you've got sewmy playstation coming out in october. playstation v.r. you've also got google, daydream coming out in october as well. i think when all those platforms hit and then you see a substantial number of v.r. tpwhrasses in the marketplace, by year end, i think people might be a little more interested to invest at that time. there have been some already. emily: there is the classic chicken and egg issue here. i was talking to someone at the venture tap tall -- capital firm sequoia, who talked about the trough of disillusionment. he believes we're not going to see v.r. going mainstream any time soon and there will be a longer period before investors and even consumers gets the gratification that some might be expecting. how would you respond to that? >> well, i think, as of today, he's probably right. because there are not many when you care it to television or other devices, mobile devices, there's, you know, billions

zuckerberg cares about ways you can use v.r.to help others. >> rose: this video shows how walking in someone else's shoes creates authentic empathy in the user. >> this is somebody seeing themselves in a virtual mirror. so the subject is physically moving in the room and his avatars are moving with him in the mirror, looks just like him and he gets to see himself moving. what we're doing is inducing body transfer, been shown by lots of scientists if you move around physically, see your mirror image move synchronously, which means its arms move when you do, after four or five minutes the brain incorporates the mirror image into the body image meaning you treat it as yourself and your brain treats it as you. los of research in great publications are showing this. since 2003, we have been working leveraging body transfer to empathy. i'll show you what happens next. you feel like this is you in the mirror. please start it again. white male subject bends down, comes up and he's a woman of color. and we repeat the body transfer so it