system. it's, i guess, a va cemetery system. and did you have anybody look at kind of the state of the art for -- there are people who control cemeteries and burials, you know, all over the united states. and there's a full industry of that that does it. there's nothing unique about handling remains and burying folks to the military. we honor those folks a little bit more than the general. so help me understand what the current boss system is versus a system you'd normally find in a relatively modern cemetery operation. >> congressman conaway, the boss system is the veterans affairs system, they're burial operation scheduling system -- >> which does scheduling? >> it does scheduling. it also is the system that the grave stones, the markers are ordered from. so that is what -- that is how arlington uses the boss system. >> all right. so it's not -- well -- >> it is a scheduling system that va uses. >> all right. what's iss. >> interment can she think yuling system was the scheduling system that arlington db it was a scheduling sy

so it's not -- well -- >> it is a scheduling system that va uses. >> what's iss? >> internment scheduling system is a system from arlington that i hin rer itted on yun 10th, scheduling system that we use at arlington for scheduling system. the difference between that and the boss system is the variables at artic arlington is different because of the kcoordinating with the chapels. >> if boss is just scheduling, why do you need two? >> it is the system that you -- we don't need two. the bottom line is we need a scheduling system. what more than that, we just need accountable data. it doesn't matter which system you use to schedule a service, it's all about the data. >> okay. so services are being held at arlington today. >> uh-huh. >> help us understand what the records look like for a particular service and is it a combination of handwritten records or is it all automated, all captured electronically? what's the current state affairs? >> sir, i'm very proud to state for those members on the committee who have been to arlington and saw the paper records and the card

does use that system to order the headstones and grave markers, but there's no payment to va under that contract. and then the last two, the internment management system and the total cemetery management system are the ones that we basically got nothing for in terms of the monies that were spent. so there were a number of reasons in terms of, you know, the contracts not having the specific -- again, oversight, the deliverables not being very clear, documentation, planning, oversight. so it spanned the gamut in terms of things that you would not want to do for contracts. and so in the oversight and management report, we made some specific recommendations in terms of having an architecture, and mr. lepore can talk more about that. >> mr. chairman, the point that my colleague ms. martin is making is we made the point in our report that the cemetery staff took some very reasonable initial steps to deal with certain of immediate deficiencies. i'm sure you've got a good firewall and virus protection and pretty fundamental stuff. probably things that needed to be done urgently, very reasonable

the operational scheduling system that the va -- >> it does scheduling and it also is the system that the gravestones, the markers are ordered from. so that is how arlington uses the system. >> so it's not -- the mcginn is a scheduling system that va uses to the interim and scheduling system is the system that arlington was kidding. i inherited on january 10th and that is a system that we use at arlington to schedule our services. the difference between that and the boss system is the variable for the burial at arlington are somewhat different. it's because you are coordinating the troubles and services and so forth. but congressman conaway, we are working with the va. the interface between the two systems are required. >> if they are just scheduling, why do you need to? >> it is the system that -- we don't need to. the bottom line is we need a scheduling system but more than that we just need accountable data. so it doesn't matter what system you use they are there to schedule a service it is all about the data. >> the services are being held in arlington today. help us understand wh

conversely, va officials are examining geographic information systems or global positioning technology should be used in their cemeteries, but the army already does this and could conceivably provide assistance to the va. since no formal mechanism exists yet to identify collaboration opportunities, we recommended that the two departments establish one, and they agreed. in conclusion, we believe the army has worked through the crisis and taken steps to put arlington national cemetery on a sustainable path to ensure effective cemetery operations. our recommendations are offered in the spirit of assisting that process along so that we never have to come before you again to have this conversation. mr. chairman, that concludes my prepared remarks and i would be happy to answer any questions that you or the other members of the subcommittee may have. thank you, director lepore. i want to thank director martin. both of you were very helpful and i even appreciated your final comment that you didn't want to have to come back. so that's -- truly, you are helping make that possible. so thank you.

va. this weak system moving through now. a few sprinkles and showers tonight.it will clear the area. you see snow in western pa. just light stuff. nothing heavy. behind this, another mild air mass. and later this week, on thursday, another system coming into the southwest. looks like it's going to bring us more mild air. but a really good chance of shower activity, at least for a few hours on thursday. then behind it, it will cool off slightly for the end of the week and the weekend. next chance of showers is really on wednesday. winds on the bay tomorrow, gusting to 20 knots. generally into 50s. it will be a breezy day but mild. 41, the bay temp. tonight, a few showers early on. ask still lots of clouds. 34 to 38 in the city. tomorrow, sun, clouds, but a warm afternoon again. low to mid-50s on your wednesday. running 6, 8, 10 degrees above normal. >>> still to come on eyewitness news tonight. >>> forensic and medical evidence, in the death of yeardley love. experts talk about love's brain for almost five hours. yardly love's mother talks to me. our conversatio

they took all those people and it put them in the va system.ow when i go for any treatment, they rip off social security for years. they are doing it with medicare. that is the reason why they are complaining about medicare going broke. you can thank gingrich and santorum for what happened on that situation when they crossed the aisle to vote with the kennedys. >> thank you for your call. we are running out of time here. on voting records, the records in washington, newt gingrich and rick santorum. >> it has been one of romney's big themes, these are guys who are washington insiders. romney's line is he has never worked a day in washington. he stayed here to make his living in washington. gingrich did the same thing. that should be an effective argument. the problem is, he is appealing with that to the outside air wing of the party. he is the establishment candidate. it is difficult for him to pull. it is a powerful message. these guys are part of the problem. you do have a voting record you have to run against. >> we are told that rick santoru

the va is seeing its costco up on health care. there is a systemic cost problem -- the va is seeing its costs go up on health care. we burn 18% of our gross domestic product on health care. the next least efficient industrialized country is at 12. we're 50% more inefficient at delivering health care than are most inefficient industrialized competitor. when you put commonwealth fund measures of how good a care is we're getting and what the outcomes are, we are not better. we are actually worse in some areas. there's a huge opportunity here that i think the administration needs to seize. a lot of good work has been done already and i'm working to put more focus on the implementation that needs to be done. but you are now in charge of omb and you are important emissary and member of this administration. i understand perfectly well from discussions cbo for many years and hearings over many years that because of the nature of reforms required, it's not something actuarially score all. it is hard to calculate its core for how this works. in certain areas l

take into consideration the vat systems that they have in place right now to supplement lost revenue from the lower corporate rates there is no discussion about a possible va in this country in order to attain that lower level. so if we're going to do this in a deficit neutral fashion, we're going to need a way to pay for it as well. here is one of the concerns i've been raising consistently. the best we can do on the corporate side, eliminating every tax expenditure, every tax credit is moving from 35 to 28% rate. would that be sufficient, mr. fryt and mr. schichtel, a 28% rate, and eliminate every expenditure on the corporate side. would that be enough to make us more competitive globally? >> i don't think it would, mr. kind. >> mr. schichtel? >> i agree with mike. >> well, then we're going to need to figure out a way to pay for the additional 3% to get to 25. if the proposition here is that we're going to go to the pass-through side, where a majority of entities are structured in this country, i don't think they're going to be that enthusiastic for pass-through entities, small business owners, s-corp.s, individuals to pay higher tax rate in order to pay

system. that's what had happened to green cottonham. he was arrested on a charge of va raens.couldn't prove he had a job in 1908. he couldn't pay the enormous fines. it was two years' labor was the fine for va graens. he was immediately sold to a coal mine on the outskirts of birmingham to a company that would pay his fines off one month at a time. instead five months later he died under horrible conditions in a coal mine outsides of birmingham owned by u.s. steel corporation. >> ifill: there are long-term consequences for these practices which link... which over the years have linked criminality and race. >> this is how our country got in the habit of finding it normal to see such a huge population of african-american men in particular incarcerated all the time. it also is, i think, really the missing link in understanding the persistence of the economic and educational gaps between african-americans and whites in modern society today. slavery didn't go away 150 years ago. african-americans haven't had that long opportunity to recover from all the terrible damage of slavery.

the va is seeing its cost go up in health care. there is a systemic cost problem that doesn't just land in medicare, it touches on all of the different elements of our health care system. we weren't 18% of our gross domestic product as a country on health care. the next least efficient industrialized country competitive of ours is at 12th. we are 50% more efficient at delivering health care than our most inefficient industrialized competitors. and when you put the commonwealth fund measures of how good the care is that we are getting, the outcomes are we are not better than they are. we are actually worse in some areas. so there is a huge opportunity i think that i believe the administration needs to seize. i think that a lot of good work has been done already, and we are working on the help committee to put more focus on the implementation of the reforms that need to be done. but here's my question to you. you are now in charge of the omb, and you are an important emmerson remember of this administration. i a understand perfectly well from the discus

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system, that's legal. >> that's what i want to ask you about is that i have some really great sources within the va and theywith women and men, by the way, that have been raped. and what is so astounding to me is how most of these cases never even reach the prosecution level. why is that? >> well, first of all, there's 19,000 sexual assaults or rapes a year. those are by dod's own statisti statistics. only 13% report. of that 13%, 90% of those victims who reported are involuntarily honorably discharged. so there's a real sense that if you report it, if you want a career in the military, you're going to be discharged. furthermore, because the power is all within the commander, your unit commander, who is judge and jury, makes the decision whether to prosecute, not prosecute, provide what is called non-judicial penalties, believe it or not. so you rape someone and you could be given, you know, five days on base. and that's your, quote, penalty for having done such a violent act against another human being. you're right, men and women in the military are being raped. in fact, because there's so many more men i

the army and the be a have their own systems to determine eligibility -- va to have their own systems to determine eligibility. the appropriations structure is different than the va's. congress may wish to review that. arlington provide military abilities. arlington has special ceremonies every year. arlington is one of the most visited destinations in washington. we think opportunities exist to collaborate more with a mutual benefit of both organizations. most ability for our veterans. the staff is dedicated to establishing eligibility for burial. va officials are examining whether the global positioning system technology should be used in their cemeteries. the army already does this. since no formal mechanism exists yet, we recommended that the two departments establish one. we believe the army has worked through the crisis. it is a sustainable path to ensure operations. whenever have to come before you again. i would be happy to answer any questions you may have. >>> >> both of you were very helpful. you are helping make that possible. thank you. >> thank you for the opportunity to