let's talk about how it changes, who we take on board, who we leave behind . my guest today is vakhtant kibuladzeopher, writer. vakhtan, vakhtanzh, congratulations, good evening, thank you for coming, glory to the heroes, so we are talking about heroes, let's start with... who we take on board, who determines it, yes, whether we, or a person stays, or cultural figures, artists, writers, stay in the boat, yes , whether they remain, how it is formed, who it is, who decides it, history decides, after all, we are only at the beginning of the process, and what remains there, we will not live to see, i am afraid of that, but, but... she said incorrectly, well , that is, it is a difference between a literary canon and a broader cultural one, well, in relation to the cultural canon it's hard to say, because the criteria are blurred there, that's how to consider, let's say, an artist there, is he a ukrainian artist or not a ukrainian artist, by place of birth, by place of residence, by the subject of works, for what, and how do you define it for yourself? there is a feeling that there is, for example, qui

talk about how it changes, who we take on board, who we leave. mine overboard today's guest is vakhtant kibuladze, philosopher, writer, vakhtany, vakhtanje, welcome, good evening, thank you for coming, glory, glory to heroes, so we are talking about heroes, let's start with who we take on board, who defines it, yes, do we, do people stay, do cultural figures, artists, writers stay in the boat, yes, do they not stay, in what way? given, who is it, who decides it? history decides, after all, we are only at the beginning of the process, and what remains there, we will not live to see it, i am afraid, but she said it wrong, well, that is, it is a difference between the literary canon and the broader cultural one, well, it is difficult to say about the cultural canon, because there the criteria are blurred, so how to count? let's say an artist there, is he a ukrainian artist or a non-ukrainian artist, by his place of birth, by his place of residence, by the theme of his works, by what, and how do you define it for yourself, do you have a certain feeling, something there, for example, it is very sub ob