louis american and former orlando police chief val demmings. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> liz, what needs to happen now in ferguson? >> well i think that the mayor needs to go as well. everybody who is -- i mean this is missouri. the buck stops here state. everybody needs to go. the mayor needs to go next. but i'm not inclined to believe that the police department needs to be dismantled. i think this is a wonderful opportunity to gut this police department. no african-american community -- majority african-american community should ever give away power. you can't get power back. gut this police department. make it a model police department for the rest of the country and that way you'd be able to police the citizens in your community the way that they should be policed as american citizens. >> you said the mayor needs to go. i remember when this report came down and didn't deal with the systemic top to bottom problem that this report seems to indicate lizz. >> absolutely. and they never used the "r" word, they ne