we have gone on a large scale, then i can’t help but ask, uh, our dear guest and friend of the valdai clubudson from uh, universities of the genre of business and economics. uh, andrey romych uh, mentioned different types. china and as the most important factor is the attitude of china to the usa and that, of course, is extremely important for us. eh, curious. this is the dialectic of protectionism, when everything seems to be. uh, those who were against steel for those who were accused of protectionism became, on the contrary, please, professor he thank you very much. it is a great honor for me to be here on this forum. e in st. petersburg and participate in this panel, i want to say, first of all, that globalization. uh, it 's happening, and i want to say now that orientation is happening now, there are certain reasons for this to happen and additional pandemics. uh, there were some interesting developments in terms of globalization, of course, the american uh, they promoted this idea and trump when u came to power and uh, here uh, the blow against globalization began with the arrival of