and valenti also said that johnson had offered it to him. valenti told me that a number of times. c-span: so why was... >> guest: but they both said it -- (unintelligible) they both said it after lbj had died. c-span: what was the relationship, then, between hollywood and lbj, hollywood and nixon, hollywood -- you go down the list of all -- what did -- what did hollywood want from the president? and what did these presidential candidates want from hollywood? >> guest: well, the presidential candidates wanted money, not surprisingly. and there was a lot of it to be gotten. and it was not -- i mean, it was money, but it was also, even more than that, i mean, it was -- it was the power -- it was star power. they could have celebrities come to washington and testify, if there were things that they wanted to -- basically, fund-raisers out in hollywood, celebrities there. that was what -- it was an enormous amount of money that was available for them to tap. and for hollywood, naturally, they wanted legislation that would be useful to them and that would make the business more profitabl