valentin marinov did give you that term, that it will matter down the road. heard that phrase this morning, and governments will not understand how long that road is. when will it start to matter? going to be interesting to see. futures at negative two. they were negative seven earlier. this is fun. she is the most interesting person in tradable markets today. adena friedman runs the nasdaq shop, always an important interview. look for that in the 9:00 hour. stay with us. markets on the move. this is bloomberg. ♪ ritika: this is "bloomberg surveillance." ." john mckay has been the ceo of whole foods market for over 40 years. he sold his company to amazon for $2.4 billion and agreed to stay on. the question is when will he live. on the davids rubenstein show. >> i will leave whole foods sometime in the next few years. i have not announced a retirement date yet. covid is a crisis. i am dealing with the crisis here for that. i always make this joke that whole foods is like my daughter and i literally married my daughter off to the richest man in the world. i jus