that means you are taking head-on buckley versus valeo. versus valeo was wrongly decided so you have to take that head-on. so you pass a piece of legislation -- the one last hope i think is to pass a structure where you take all the money out. you have individuals contribute money to a clean campaign fund. but a few at the beginning of every year for four months allowed the fcc to advertise and say citizens of america you have a chance to get all the special-interest money out, contribute money to a clean campaign fund and develop that fund and distribute it in general elections based on a formula we would have much more competitive elections and returned to elections beyond the marketplace of ideas with citizens speaking with the fall were the best ideas rather than whoever has the biggest check book, whoever has the biggest check book. so you all need to push for it. the american people need to push for this. it is a way of right now provide believe that helps everything we are talking about up here. i want to underscore you want your le

valeo.ou will have to set up a system, and if they declare it unconstitutional you're going to have to amend the constitution to allow the kind of regulation and legislate that the congress needs to do in this area. and senator dodd and i are on a constitutional amendment right now that i think forces that issue. >> he has to be campaign-finance for years. he's been involved in the reform. that's what it's working so well right now, tom. >> have a we done a brilliant job? >> listen, this panel has been so agreeable. it's time we had a little disagreement, and i'm going to disagree with the senator on this. i don't think banning all private money in elections and campaigns would be a good thing. i also don't think it's a constitutionally possible. it would take a constitutional amendment, and it would, in my view, and it would seem very much to go against sort of free speech guarantee of the first amendment. i also just think having citizens put a little skin in the game, is something useful.