this is something that valerie garrett, the tram valerie garrett had been pounded for what a while. she was concerned it would be something like this are one. back in the carter years it was a failed effort to rescue the 52 hostages in iran and to american aircraft collided a number of american servicemen died. it is really a pivot point in the presidency. at that point, people said it's not just the economy. he really can't lead. and she was afraid to valerie garrett, that if the raid went badly this to be the point in the above presidency. we have a lot of similarities. high unemployment, a lot of uncertainty about the future of the economy. we have uncertainty about the future of the country, allies who are very uncertain about us and some who are deserting us. we have lots of american prestige abroad. an entity that says a disaster in an attempt to kill bin laden, that would be the pivot point. she was concerned about the politics and reelection possibility. hillary clinton, petraeus,, panetta are concerned about missing an opportunity. this is a guy who killed 3000 americans. i

this is something valerie church, the drum valerie jarrett had been pounding.she was concerned it is going be something like this airplane. remember back in the carter years a failed effort to rescue hostages held in iran into american aircraft collated and servicemen died. it was really a pivot point in the carter presidency. to that point can people said he's not just the economy. he really can't lead. and she was afraid that it would go badly and is to be a pivot point in the obama presidency. we have a lot of similarities. high unemployment, uncertainty about the future of the economy, uncertainty about the future of the country. we have allies who are very uncertain about some deserting us. we have loss of american prestige abroad. then if you add this disaster, that would be the pivot point. she was worried about politics and the reelection. hillary clinton, petraeus, panetta are worried about missing an opportunity. this is a guy that killed 3000 americans. if america ever learned we had a minor sites and pull the trigger. >> host: that's what the leader

would filter down to them was valerie jarrett didn't like the idea and valerie jarrett is a mentor to the president and the first lady but i want to be clear she didn't order them to stop. at that in the normal chain of command they heard stop working on the bin laden reagan when asked why this was the reason they came back. >> host: was valerie jarrett involved in any of the discussion, for example with hillary clinton and robert gates and leon panetta? was she a member? >> guest: unclear but probably not. there were a lot of discussions between valerie jarrett and the president himself and remember what barack obama had said about valerie jarrett. he told "the new york times" in 2009, never make an important decision without talking to valerie jarrett first. he said he speaks with her two to three times a day and if you look at white house visitor logs you will notice the first two administrations while they were hunting bin laden, the visitor logs, leon panetta only visits the white house nine times that we have two to three times a day on one hand versus nine times in two years so

so this is a very unusual figure in american history, and if valerie jarrett is a mentor to both therst lady and the president at the same time, and they're deeply indebted to her. every major job that michelle obama has held since 1981 in one way or another was gotten for her by valerie jarrett, and for barack obama she played a key role in all of his campaigns from 1991 forward, and it's hard to overestimate how large of a role she has. barack obama has said she never makes an important decision without talking to her first. megyn: all right. this is how i'm going to do the interview now. hopefully, i'll have hearing by the end of the program. i want to ask you about the secret service detail because we're talking to former white house people who are saying this is extraordinary for her to have her own secret service detail 24/7 door to door -- [inaudible] full secret service detail paid for by the taxpayers. how extraordinary is that? >> well, it makes it hard to -- [inaudible] doesn't it? it's very unusual. karl rove who had a similar but much more diminished role compared to val

there were discussions between valerie jared and the president. remember what barack obama said. he told "the new york times" in 2009 and for making an important decision without talking to valerie first. he said they were there two to three times a day. in the first administration while they were hunting bin laden, according to the white house visitor logs the director leon panetta only visits the white house nine times, so two to three times a day on the one hand versus nine times in two years. >> you describe how a number of political advisers met judging by the white house logperch. >> host: this is the interest in the politics. >> host: dimension the president was able to make small decisions but never the big decisions along the way. >> guest: people tend to think of it like a movie the president picks up the phone and tells them to go and cut to the next scene. the fact of the decision is complex and involves a lot of moving parts they've trained and rehearsed and even before that you have to decide what shape the mission is going to take command for much of 2010 it was an

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valerie, it's really about the perception and you're trailing significantly in [ inaudible ].e campaign, is it not? >> this is what this convention is all about. it gives us an opportunity to really crystallize for the american people this stark contrast and it's their choice, what direction we want to go forward. i think the president in the course of this week, you're going to hear from so many speakers who talk about their life story and how this agenda moves their life forward, embodies the american dream, and he then on thursday has a chance to give us his road map for the future. so at the end of the week i think we will have told a very effective story which should not just galvanize our base but your country. >> we have a story, are blacks better off than four years ago. by any indices the answer is no. the unemployment gap is wider with african-americans than it was before barack obama was elected, wealth, income disparity is greater today than four years ago. and i'm sure that the answer would be it's been tough times and blacks disproportionately suffer. i don't hav

this isn't new, the power of valerie jarrett.ntion, not that she's the most powerful or the closest person to the president, this woman has a secret service detail. she is not a chief of staff or someone with a national security portfolio. she's a general advisor. this is unheard of. you're talking about 24 hours of round the clock service. this is a white house that argues it is for ordinary people, that it's not out of touch. it's romney and the republicans. but this woman has a full detail secret service. men and women who are around the clock, working on her protection. for what? this is a boon. this is kind like versailles, i'm afraid. when you tie this to what she's doing, the question is why? who is she? >> brian: right. who is she? she evidently paved the way for him in many ways his advisor and great person to hook him up with powerful people when he was a state senator and paved his way as the u.s. senator. and then was there for him and his wife as he became president of the united states. the question is, should he be

the thing it is valerie jarrett -- do you think it is valerie jarrett or the other end of the chicago machine. thati is all. guest: the president is calling the shots. he is heavily influenced and the man who ran his successful campaign in 2008, the senior adviser and has the office closest to the oval office. geography is very significant. he is a very skilled political operative. when there is a decision to be made, he ways and with the political -- weighs in with the politcal angle. i would say his influence, valerie jarrett plays a role. there are many other people. the congressional liaison plays a significant role in all of these. i layout exactly what happened, what we used to call the best obtainable version of the truth and it is often emotional. at many points it is complicated. host: the influence of joe biden in these talks. and the preparation and he did in what was known as the b iden group. guest: biden is critical on all of this. going back to 2010, after the democrats lost the house, obama center by -- sent vice president biden to negotiate with mitch mcconnell. in th

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. >> reporter: meet the artist valerie leonard. not much interested in painting the man of the house as man's best friend. >> it is slightly dog and it is supposed to be funny and people either love it or hate it. >> reporter: it's clear she sees dogs and cats as much more than just pets. >> a dog has one life, one spirit. it deserves as much value as any other creature. >> reporter: she's not alone. her company takes orders from all over the world. each one meticulously painted by hand. >> i think she has just enough of a mona lisa smile. >> reporter: and these canine collectibles aren't cheap. an oil on canvas like this runs about $900. is it money well spent? >> absolutely. it's joy. it's sharing the life we have with our dogs. >> reporter: these portraits which resemble the work of the great pastors are trowelly a work of the 21st century. that's because valerie uses computer design to map them out, the head tilted at just the right angle, the paws placed just so. >> so many people say how do you get the dogs to wear these clot

. >> reporter: meet the artist, valerie leonard.h interested in painting the man of the house as she is man's best friend. it's clear she sees dogs and cats as much more than just pets. >> a dog has one life, one spirit. it deserves as much value as any other creature. >> reporter: she's not alone. her company takes orders from all over the world. each one meticulously painted by hand. and these canine collectibles aren't cheap. a canvas like this one runs about $900. these portraits that resembles the work of the great masters are a work of the 21st century. valerie uses computer design to map them out. the head tilted at the right angle. the paws placed just so. >> people say how do you get the dogs to wear these clothes? >> reporter: they think the dogs are posing for you? >> yes. and animal rights people get upset that i forced the animal into these clothes. i have respect for them. but that's a bit silly.

but tell us, what did you think of valerie? is she happy?r aides were around us and the producer with "the five" was with me. they were telling her to cut off the interview. at one point valerie jarret said hey, i thought you were going to ask me three things because i went on to ask her added questions. she tolerates it and said okay. it was clear i was pushing the limits there with her. she has known the president for 21 years. she is his closest advisor. everybody is profiling her as the real power in the obama white house. some people say she is his mother figure. whatever. but you know, when i said are you really his mom, she said i'm not that old. >> bob: i willed to one of your questions you asked her and 45 minutes later i heard the answer. you did pack a lot in the questions. do you have questions for juan on this? >> eric: did you get my e-mail? i wanted you to ask miss jarret is there anything in the last four years that president obama did wrong? >> well, you know, i got your e-mail but it was after the interview. >> dana: timing

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valerie in pennsylvania. valerie. how are you? >> okay.ouraged by your knowledge. i'm calling about wells fargo. >> going over the last four years and it's stock has not done nearly as well as it should have. it has got 30% of america's mortgage i want you to go right here. let's go to shawn in new york. >> booyah jim. >> booyah shawn. >> phm. >> it is good not the best. but these stocks are ramped. i'm going to say don't buy until after friday. and then you get a better chance. alice in florida. >> hi jimbo how are you? >> good how about you? >> great thank you. i'm calling today to find out about the cobalt international. i watched your show and ran out and bought. but it has bought since my pricing. >> it is still up a lot. the problem is again oil, oil has to go up big for these stock to work. these are options on crude. crude is not doing what we want it to if we want to buy the stocks. and then the stock comes back. >> how about virginia in texas? >> hi thanks for taking my call. fidelity income trust. >> i think the stock is cheap a

it was clear he leaked valerie plame's name to at least two reporters.ified before the grand jury that he did not leak her name, and as i show it in my book, he got off only by a stroke of luck when another reporter, time magazine happened to be friendly with his lawyer and told him that rove was in trouble and that the other reporter was going to testify against him, so rove went back and changed his testimony. otherwise i think he might have gone to jail. >> jennifer: well, he has not escaped notice of being really quite brilliant in terms of a political tactician. how does he turn unsexy things like voter fraud into winning issues for the gop? >> way back in the '80s the texas republican party was very very week, and rove was sort of a nobody. and the democrats were strong because they had powerful conservative democrats like lloyd benson and john connelly and so forth. lloyd got around that by going to big tobacco and pharmaceutical companies and saying look, you guys you risk billions and billions of dollars in tort liability lawsuits. i can save yo

megyn: it was the "new york times" that outed valerie jarett. >> where is the followup?hether it's obama or romney, the country needs to know. the press job isn't to decide which truth you are allowed to know. they are in the tank and may have decide they must protect this president unlike any president in history. megyn: 56, 57 days to go until the election. kids do not try this at home. there is a reason why these animals are called wild. would you look at this? plus it may be the most famous moment in the most sensational murder trial of any century. o.j. simpson trying to put on the bloody gloves that didn't seem to fit and did indeed lead the jury to acquit. now the bombshell allegation that this evidence was tampered with by johnny cochran. >> if you look at o.j. simpson over there and he has a rather large head. o.j. simpson in a knit cap from two blocks away is still o.j. simpson. it's no disguise it's no disguise it makes no sense. it doesn't fit. if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit. i honestly loved smoking, a

it and hillary relates to the source of mine, that the lunch took place and a pleasant lunch with valerieared who is one of the three most important people in the white house after the president and first lady, and though it was a policy lunch, the subject of joe biden came up, and although valerie didn't really offer the job, because that is up to the president, for the vice-president, she indicate thad she wondered what hillary felt about it? and hillary said she had no interest in runog that ticket. for the simple reason, that if it won, she would have to run in 2016 and defend the obama record which i don't think is going to be so great if he wins. or if he lost, then she would be smeared as a loser and she decided it was a lose-lose preposition for her and she said no thanks. >> the attack ads are personal and nasty and i think they could get worse. so does ed kline. would the president resort with the nuclear option and go each week day hear my daily commentary the huckabee report. details at mikehuckabee.com. we are back with the best selling author ed kliin author of the book the

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and to get back to valerie's point, i think we live in a robust democracy. people are going to have a say on november 6. and i think that election is going to send a strong message that people want cooperation. they want to move together to solve some of these very difficult problems. >> why is it necessary for the president to have to make a phone call to change what the platform said about jerusalem? >> well, he decided it was important to put back in what has been in the platform. jerusalem being the capital. and so he put it back in. i think -- >> he didn't know it was not in? >> he was not aware. >> honestly, charlie, you know, he was counting on others to -- he had some other duties and responsibilities. and so when he learned that what had been in the platform had been taken out, he said put it back in. >> he learned yesterday? >> yes. >> thank you, david and valerie. >> great to see both of you. >> it was a pleasure. >> first joint interview. >> yeah. we need to do more of this. >> david axelrod and valerie jarrett. >>> vice president joe biden is sp

then i told valerie, look at the glasses. the water glasses started to tilt. he started to make a hard turn to the starboard. >> captain schettino himself had been in the restaurant a short time earlier in the company of a young maldovan woman, domnica cemortan. then he took her up to the bridge. his attorney insists schettino was not distracted. >> translator: her presence had no influence at all. she wasn't on the bridge in the sense of where the ship is managed. she was very far back. >> reporter: he was distracted by a phone conversation shortly before the crash. the captain had promised a salute to the island of giglio, showing off the cruise line to the people ashore. it was a custom residents had come to expect. concordia safety officer pellegrini later told investigators that first officer had ordered the helmsman to turn away from the island. but then -- >> schettino relieved ambrosio of his duty and taking on himself directly the navigation command, ordered the helmsman to keep the route and increase speed. the "concordia" was traveling at some 15 kn

then i told valerie, look at the water glasses, they're starting to tilt. it started to mach a hard turn. >> the captain himself had been in the restaurant a short time earlier in the company of a young woman. then he took her up to the bridge. his attorney insists he was not distracted. >> translator: her presence had no influence at all. she wasn't in the bridge in the since where the ship is managed. she was very far back. >> but he admitted to an italian news station he was distracted by a phone conversation shortly before the crash. the captain promised a salute to the island as he showed off people to ship. it is a custom that the residents had come to expect. concordia safety officer later told investigators that first officer ambrose yoe had ordered the turn away from the island. but then -- >> he relieved him of his duty and taking on himself directly the navigation command or the helmsman and to increase speed. the concordia was traveling at some 15 knots, too fast, so close to the shore. this man, the operations manager. >> sometimes we pass a cl

this morning, and valerie jarrett is there newsmaker guest.hat will be coming up this morning at 7:55 a.m. eastern time, valerie jarrett with the folks from "politico." a couple of more facebook comments. are you better off than you were four years ago? host: maria, are you better off than you were four years ago? caller: i am now paying for more taxes than before. after that, i voted for obama and it took me out. they started talking about race. black people and white people. and i decided not to go through it. i saw a woman who voted for obama and he did not do nothing for the black people. nothing for the spanish. excuse me [unintelligible] host: that was maria, from puerto rico. here is the front page of "the los angeles times" this morning. richmond, california. wanda, are you better off than you were four years ago? >> definitely i am a better off than i was four years ago. let me just explain, my friend, i am losing my train of thought, but mentioned it was a republican who mentioned he was not better off. now i cannot think of the thin

why, on the anniversary of 9/11, why did we learn that valerie jarret has more security as she takes her vacation in martha's vineyard, than on 9/11 at our embassies in cairo and libya? >> there's a credibility issue here. and it's easy to look tough by sending some guy to a suburban apartment in los angeles and sending a big posses of sheriffs to arrest him. where is the toughness when the al-qaeda flag is flying offer your embassy? >> what is he going to do? president obama, our embassies have been breached, our flag taken down and burned for whole world to see. what is he going to do about it? 1. >> he and mrs. clinton have chosen to blame the obscure video. that's misdirection. it has nothing to do with that. >> my kids get in more trouble, not usually for what they do, it's when they come and i didn't do it and they lie. and we've been lied to by susan rice over the weekend and we've been lied to by jay carney. >> no. they are shouting death to america. there's no qualification there, death to america. which of those three words doesn't the united states government doesn't under