such figures at valerie garrett and robert gibbs and david axelrod.jon: what? what kind of writer are you? >> well, and so the white house pretty much knew what was in it before it came out. so anyway, i have been really surprised because.... >> jon: who is mad at you? because the lady on cnn was angry that you had not spoken to the couple since 2009. >> well by her logic, we wouldn't write obituaries because we can't talk to the dead people. so i don't know. but the thing.... >> jon: what? sorry. that was an odd place to take it. go ahead. who is pushing back? is the obama administration upset with you? >> you know, i think one thing that is a little bit delicate is that there is some behind-the -scenes in the book. that shows us a little bit how the sausage is made. for example, the obama... you know,. >> jon: they actually have a sausage factory. she's not being metaphorical. from what i understand to raise a little extra money they have a sausage factory, they have an organic farm too. >> we see a lot of beautiful images of the president and the f

valerie garrett is an old friend of the eponymous from chicago. she is their mentor. she really helped them get started politically in chicago. and she made out in the wake of a transition as a probable is the one the obama stated fish tissue does have a real estate vacated in chicago who she has in city government experience to going in the next senior aides in the white house. and you know, if the theme of this book in a way is what is public and that is private and the presidency, valerie is a great -- her role they are really captures how complicated it is. because i'm the one hand she's a senior adviser in the west wing just got this outreach portfolio of her own. and on the other hand, she's one of the president and first lady's closest friend. she often represent michelle obama's views in the left wing. she's also the highest level african-american in the obama singer circle, so she's often responsible for matters of race. and you know, the sister of the presidential campaign and still true in the white house. she was kind of a newcomer to national politics and

valerie garrett is an old friend of the eponymous from chicago. she is their mentor.she really helped them get started politically in chicago. and she made out in the wake of a transition as a probable is the one the obama stated fish tissue does have a real estate vacated in chicago who she has in city government experience to going in the next senior aides in the white house. and you know, if the theme of this book in a way is what is public and that is private and the presidency, valerie is a great -- her role they are really captures how complicated it is. because i'm the one hand she's a senior adviser in the west wing just got this outreach portfolio of her own. and on the other hand, she's one of the president and first lady's closest friend. she often represent michelle obama's views in the left wing. she's also the highest level african-american in the obama singer circle, so she's often responsible for matters of race. and you know, the sister of the presidential campaign and still true in the white house. she was kind of a newcomer to national politics and