there were discussions between valerie jared and the president. remember what barack obama said. he told "the new york times" in 2009 and for making an important decision without talking to valerie first. he said they were there two to three times a day. in the first administration while they were hunting bin laden, according to the white house visitor logs the director leon panetta only visits the white house nine times, so two to three times a day on the one hand versus nine times in two years. >> you describe how a number of political advisers met judging by the white house logperch. >> host: this is the interest in the politics. >> host: dimension the president was able to make small decisions but never the big decisions along the way. >> guest: people tend to think of it like a movie the president picks up the phone and tells them to go and cut to the next scene. the fact of the decision is complex and involves a lot of moving parts they've trained and rehearsed and even before that you have to decide what shape the mission is going to take command for much of 2010 it was an

and hillary relates to the source of mine, that the lunch took place and a pleasant lunch with valerie jaredho is one of the three most important people in the white house after the president and first lady, and though it was a policy lunch, the subject of joe biden came up, and although valerie didn't really offer the job, because that is up to the president, for the vice-president, she indicate thad she wondered what hillary felt about it? and hillary said she had no interest in runog that ticket. for the simple reason, that if it won, she would have to run in 2016 and defend the obama record which i don't think is going to be so great if he wins. or if he lost, then she would be smeared as a loser and she decided it was a lose-lose preposition for her and she said no thanks. >> the attack ads are personal and nasty and i think they could get worse. so does ed kline. would the president resort with the nuclear option and go each week day hear my daily commentary the huckabee report. details at mikehuckabee.com. we are back with the best selling author ed kliin author of the book the amateu