in a previous paper i wrote with valerie lundy wagner at community college research center at columbia, and one of my former students, we wrote a paper that looks at the gains of women of color. it's specifically at black colleges. i haven't looked at that across all msis, but at black colleges, if i were to be completely frank, the success of black colleges is due to women of color. i mean, to black women. i mean, the success is much higher with regard to black women. it's especially high in the area of s.t.e.m. they're making really, really great contributions in that area. so i haven't looked across all msis. that's a great -- it would be a great thing to do. we definitely have that data and could look at that, but that's a really good question. >> i would like to add in our analyses in texas, black males disproportionately, overwhelmingly choose to go to an hbcu over white -- over white -- over black females. so while the stories of black women obviously need to be present in the conversation, the hot spots of where black males are attending college, at least in texas, they overwhe