. >> host: valerie matsumoto, when did japanese immigration to the united states began and really take off? >> guest: well, the first to come or students in the 1890s and they were seeking western tip knowledge he nhtsa knowledge to strengthen imperial rule. but actually they were soon followed by a huge number of workers who are looking for economic opportunities. so the first went to hawaii, but by the 1900s, more were coming to the continental united states. >> host: how big was that wave? >> guest: we are talking -- it is easy to work backwards, but by the eve of world war ii, there were 125,000 japanese-americans cover 22 thirds of whom were american war and in the continental united states and about 150,000 in hawaii. post go again, on the eve of world war ii, 120,000 japanese americans in the united states. just as there were several thousand in the east coast. >> guest: eisai means literally first-generation. it refers to the japanese immigrants. nisei been second-generation and it refers to the u.s. generation american-born children. >> host: so is there a third-generation as