brian: did you talk to joe wilson or valerie plame? judith: i did not.he was so angry at me by that time. for reasons that are still unclear to me. she has accused me of being a cheerleader for the war. i never took a position on the war. i was a reporter, i could not. i had my own personal views. i understand her anger and her pain over feeling that she had to leave the cia. i wish that it was directed at the people who were responsible for her outing which was richard armitage and the others who leaked her identity. brian: has he ever spoken about it? judith: he spoke in early interviews, not recently. colin powell would not allow me to interview him. i really wanted to but he did write a book in which he expresses his displeasure with the people who now claim that they had doubts about the intelligence information. he wrote in his own book -- where were they when the country was going to war? where were they when he was giving his u.n. speech? i think he has made his own view pretty clear. brian: back in 2010 here is a brief interview with scooter lib

in addition, there was a controversy about outing cia agent valerie plame, you may remember that thatiller. in fact, she spent 85 days in jail because she refused to give up the source in that case. and here's the kicker. ms. miller didn't even write about valerie plame in the "new york times," the source turned out to be vice president cheney's advisor scooty libby who eventually granted judith miller a waiver after she finally released from federal detention in virginia and agreed to testify in front of a federal grand jury about the libby situation. something the "new york times" did not want her to do. miller was forced out by the times. she joins us now. i read the book and i'm exhausted by that lead. in all right, let's take it step-by-step. there is an awful lot of stuff there. first thing is that you looked into the anthrax letters that were sent a few days after the 9/11 attack in 2001, all right? >> i actually got a letter that was filled with powder that they thought was an anthrax letter. >> it was a false alarm. >> it was, thank goodness. this doctor the fbi said committe

explain why, in your judgment give us a sense, valerie plame and the role she played in this journey.> well, i can understand why she's very upset with me. she's been tweeting. but i think she ought to direct her anger at the people who outed her, and for a long time the country believed that scooter libby had outed her. i testified that incorrectly it turned out, he had done so. really the people who outed her were the anti-war critics in her own administration, and that's one of the points i emphasize in this book. >> it's a complex history. it is a complex story. a complex life, and a fascinating career. the book is the story, a reporter's journey. we recommend it to you highly. >> if i can just say one thing about you. >> sure. >> you -- >> maybe not. >> you were the only journalist at another network then who every night that i was in jail put up a little clock saying, you know, 90 days in jail. on and on and on and you were the only one. i never forgot it. when i watched oprah and the other stories i said lou dobbs at least knows i'm here. that made a difference. >> you are very