i never wrote about valerie plame. i never wrote a story about valerie plame. i don't believe my job as journalist is outing agents. other people can do that. people who cover the cia can do it. i didn't think that is my job. i was told about her pretty early on but i was so consumed when i came back with iraq for how, about how we got this wrong, i mean, i had been out there with the xtf covering their search day after day, hundreds of places theaves ted. coming up dry. we dug up everything from fighter jets to sofas. the iraqis hid everything of potential value and but i came back with a list of questions about why the intelligence was so wrong. and that's what i was focused on. in the course of my questions about that i came across a reference to valerie plame. i'll tell you how it happened, in the "new york times" her husband had written a story an op ed page article saying basically that is where they lied people died meme began in earnest. he had gone to niger and looked at some of the intelligence and it wasn't what the administration said it was and the

begins the chances of iran developing a nuclear weapon would only increase. >> wait a second, valerie plame this video. valerie, do you know that because you are a spy. >> i'm not going to answer that, jack. >> i think what valerie is saying is the agreement on the table is the best way to ensure that iran doesn't build a [ bleep ] bomb. >> up next, valerie plame and james fallows will join us. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me... and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me reach for more. doctors have been prescribing humira for more than 10 years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contrubutes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma have happened, as have blood liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions and new or worsening heart

. >> a video starring among others jack black, morgan freeman and valerie plame. the video makes the point the only alternative to the deal might be war with iran. >> once a war begins the chances of iran developing a nuclear weapon would only increase. >> wait a second valerie plame was in this video. valerie, do you know that because you are a spy. >> i'm not going to answer that jack. >> i think what valerie is saying is the agreement on the table is the best way to ensure that iran doesn't build a [ bleep ] bomb. >> up next valerie plame and james fallows will join us. you total your brand new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do, drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement, we'll replace the full value of your car. see car insurance in a whole

valerie plame is in this video. valerie, do you know that because you are a spy? >> i am not going to answer that question, jack. >> i think what valerie is saying that the agreement currently on the table is the best way to ensure iran doesn't build a [bleep] bomb. >> wow. how did all of those celebrities hear each other from the different backyards. it goes on awhile longer, but i think you get the idea. re was a saying in the regan white house. as goes jack black so goes the nation, right? >> yeah, we are all in really big trouble now. they bought it hook, line and sinker. they bought this notion that president obama and secretary kerry say if you don't like this deal, you must want a war with -- probably a nuclear war with iran. it is a complete false choice, yet they bought it. they are reading their teleprompter. they got their lines down. >> i guess they are trying to contrast president obama's plan with the plan of the rest of the nation which is calling for nuclear war. isn't that right? >> they are speaking to the small minority of the population that so

with a list of questions why the intelligence was so wrong but then i came across a reference to valerie plame it happened in "the new york times" her husband had written a story an op-ed article that said he had run into nature to let the intelligence reports that the administration was lying. so i began investigating if that was true and i learned about foul reclaim. i thought i learned about it with a failed intelligence it was only years later that i discovered that my testimony was wrong because i misinterpreted the very, very brief notes that i had of her in my notebook i felt horrible and consumed with guilt i testified against cuter libya definitely did not learn from him but from what remember either and what i had done is one of the most common memories but he was never permitted to offer to the jury and almost every witness you can see differences between what they told the grand jury or the fbi. via very open about my views with this but once it was determined by the sec ought -- cia long before the indictments there was no damage to her or national security or any source at home o

tonight get the reaction from former covert cia operative, valerie plame.ind of thing is always a perennial problem, i don't care whether it's republican or democrat. institutions that fail us and leave a lot of americans wondering what else are they screwing up? she's out of there at the opm, is that going to change things in your eyes? >> thank you for having me. well, it's a start to. they she did not inspire confidence i think is an understatement. but your previous guest is absolutely right, it's clearly systemic. we don't have faith in our institutions, right, because when it first -- the news first dribbled out, 4 million people, bad enough. now up to 22 million. but from my former cia operation perspective, this is catastrophic. not only are people's personal information available for sale on the internet. that's terrible as it is, identity theft. but through the perspective of counterintelligence, if indeed, we don't know for sure, if indeed china is behind this, they have access to all sorts of personal information that can be used against us for

his friend, valerie plame. her a former cia agent, plame's cover was compromised in 23003 by white house official. scandal ensued. and plame and her husband eventually moved to santa fe where she met fenn. you were an ex-cia operative do you give forrest credit for keeping his secret for so long? >> apparently not even his wife. >> not iep his wife. >> that is something. >> do you believe snip do you think that fresh suffer out there? >> oh, absolutely. i think that this is something that forrest has done to completely amuse himself. >> another friend meyer michael mcgarrity agrees, he's one of many people who say they saw the treasure before fenn hid it. >> forrest loves attention. but he denies it. >> he has this awe-shucks personality. >> we don't way that -- no. >> his ego is involved. who he is, what he comes from. his whole life has been one big adventure after another. >> adventures that he loves. and hiding the treasure was a way to pass that love on. in your mind who would be the best person or family