>> well, in all due respect to valerie policemane, the situation was regrettable. but i still don't know of any national security covert operations that were disclosed or compromised by that. obviously, we don't want that to happen. burr we are talking about two of the most important programs that this nation has been involved in. and if they think that shouldn't be -- have been revealed or if it's okay, fine, the president can declassify them. instead, they were selective leaks to the author of the book, which obviously paints those who did the leaking in a very favorable light. that's why we need an investigation. suppose nothing came out of the white house. let's suppose that. why wouldn't the administration want a special counc toil investigate this because of the gravity and the size of this compromise of national security? >> sean: let's talk about this. how deeply does this harm national security? and explain in some detail how this specifically can affect the lives of brave men and women that are dedicated to serving? >> first of all, in the case of the cyb

>> the valerie policemane case case -- valley plame case was like a traffic ticket compared to this. she was not a covert person, she had been out of covert work, she only did it 5 years. it's a five-year limit. the beginning of the investigation, they knew who the leaker was, armitage twasn't stewart or libby. it became a national scandal. new york times wrote a hundred articles about it. if you need a demonstration of how unbelievably unfair the coverage is to a republican as opposed to a democrat, this is a great example of it. much more is at stake here. in that case, valerie plame's safety, allegedly was in jeopardy t. really wasn't, but allegedly. here, the safety of hundreds of people are in jeopardy -- people have been put in jail as a result of the gross negligence -- here you can do this for sure. there is a man in jail 33 years based on the gross negligence of the obama administration in keeping secrets. >> sean: who is going to want to trust us in the future? >> trust us? >> sean: what covert operative? >> we are sticking worms in the iranian computers with israel. they a