for the answers and us for the fact that we invited you to the conversation, it was important, valeriy pekara teacher at the maghyla business school, was in touch with us, well now we will talk... and about european aid to ukraine, of course, we will sum up the results of the nato summit in washington, because actually most of the countries that are part of nato are, after all, european countries. ivana klympush tsensadze, chairman of the committee on ukraine's eu integration, verkhovna rada of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine, mrs. ivanna, i congratulate you. good evening. i would still like you, but you know where to start, not even a nato summit and not with, and not with, help. very important statements of our european partners regarding assistance to ukraine, such decisive steps, that is petro poroshenko called, well, it was just after the russian attack on okhmadite, that the world recognize putin as a criminal, that is a very strong phrase actually, but i would like to ask you as a politician, as a deputy and a diplomat to a certain extent as well, of course, to , and how should it

very much for your answers and thank you for inviting you to the conversation, it was important, valeriy pekar, a teacher at the mogilian business school, was in touch with us, and now we will talk about e. for ukraine, of course, we will summarize the results of the nato summit in washington, because actually most of the countries that are part of nato are, after all , european countries, ivana klympushtensadze, chairman of the committee on ukraine's integration into the eu, verkhovna rada of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine, mrs. ivanno , i congratulate you, good evening, i would still like you, you know where to start, not even with the nato summit and not with and not with the help of very important statements. other european partners in helping ukraine to take such decisive steps, petro poroshenko called, well, it was just after the russian attack on okhmadit, for the world to recognize putin as a criminal, that is a very strong phrase in fact, but i would like you as a politician, as a a deputy, and to a certain extent a diplomat as well, of course, to be asked to kill, but how should

necessary, military intelligence will definitely know better than we will make any guesses here, valeriy pekarcher... of the mogolyan business school with us on "link" mr. valery, i congratulate you. good evening. well, people ask, me i understand that this is not the topic of our conversation today, but i am interested in your opinion. should we expect any increase in aid, primarily in terms of human resources, from north korea, russia, which is already attracting residents of the african continent, and sending illegal migrants to the front, and there is a lot going on there. she also does and there aren't that many people in north korea, actually there are 25 million people, it's not china, but if you thought about it, can you expect any big help or such a blow to the side from north korea in ukrainian on on the ukrainian fronts, please, mr. vasyl, firstly, i completely agree with you that this is a matter that should be handled by military intelligence, and secondly, if i understand... the situation in north korea, then if a north korean is taken there for borders of his own country, the fi

pekar valeriy wrote about what, er, who also has a relationship with the mylan school, business school. who wrote that we cannot win a war unless we have an understanding of the strategy for victory, that is, unless we we don't understand what our victory is, this question still remains, it seems to be open, i know that you wrote a column, nvei published it, and actually i wanted to talk to you about this today, how do you see the ukrainian victory, and what are your arguments, that it should be exactly like that, i tell you... i would say that two aspects of victory are combined, of course, the first is that when there is no way to overcome the aggressor, strictly speaking, it does not even make sense to start a war against ukraine, and the continuation of this argument exists when the ukrainian economy, in particular society, exists so strong that they will give... it's nice that they will give a completely reasoned, completely qualified fight back to the aggressor, how can this happen? well, let's take other examples. geographically, north korea can do all kinds of funny and not fun