so she started marching on the storyboard how many stories were featured in female voices and male valises and then begin the discussion with the producers about look let's try to change this and get other voices on the air. then it's progressed to let's say we won't have official representative to be female voices. so then the goal was to try to get it to happen, to work harder to get the women on the air so at a certain point in the day she would have another story meeting as the board was looking too male and they would do it again so all of this is to say it wouldn't just happen and i can speak from experience on the cbc diversity policies, too good intentions are not enough and if you ask, pick a show, if you ask if the value equity or diversity or the reflection they would say yes. if you measure by content analysis to see if it happened, many cases that's not the case. so i think it has to be delivered. i think you have to declare what is you are trying to achieving your audience and then measure it and hold people accountable, and everybody hates, but it's not because in journalism