bring in top expert, van hipp, former top army official. reat to see you, sir. >> liz, great to be with you. elizabeth: the question was this intelligence available to the obama white house even as it sought the iran deal giving iran tens of billions of dollars? >> liz, i think they had this back, our country probably had it going back to 2007. this was part of an interrogation of al-kazali u.s. central command t was declassified by centcom this year. we've known about it a long time. surprise be surprise, iran was providing ied technology, training militia groups who would go back and in and launch attacks against our soldiers. elizabeth: it was not helping arm iraq, scrap the banner, helping a shiite militia in iraq attack iraqi, u.s. troops. so here's the thing, van hipp. should americans see more classified documents? do voters have the right to see this sort of intelligence and know who is pulling the strings immediately, not years after the fact? >> i think so. liz, we did something for fox news a few years ago using open source intell

van hipp is with us with the american defense international organization.e've got a ceasefire reportedly, but back up a little. how close to war are they in the mideast? >> i think they're getting bigtime close. we had a bigtime escalation of hostilities in this week, but the developments of the last few hours, stuart, are significant. last night the israelis sent word if one more rocket comes into israel from the gaza strip, we are going to launch a major military operation in gaza. guess what? not one rocket was fired last night. israeli defense forces announced this morning that the security restrictions that they were going to put in place for those gaza border communities, they've withdrawn them following a situational assessment on the ground. so all is quiet right now. so this is a ceasefire. but it's not the the big cease fever that we're hope -- ceasefire that we're hoping for. that's being negotiated with egypt. stuart: good information and thanks for bringing us to us right at the last minute there. i want to switch gears for a second. our govern

stuart: joining us now from the american defense international, we have van hipp is with us. re is a guy who knows a lot about cyber warfare. van, same question to you, should we go on offense? should we attack the russians and take down the networks? >> i agree with general keane, spot on 100%. first hats off to microsoft. we need more american companies doing things to counterthe russians on this i think "the new york times" missed this piece. why are the russians attacking the hudson institute. the hudson institute more than any organization in america outside of the government leading the charge sounding the alarm on the fact that hoover wins quantum race in the cyber war. russia gets it. america is behind. this is not a partisan race. this san american issue. we have to win it. stuart, three things i would do right now. would i create a cell, special cell in the national security council designed winning quantum raise, coordinating throughout the government. number two, the general keane talks about the tools. department of homeland security has a science and technology d