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leslie van houten is now pleading for parole too.he former homecoming queen once said she wished she'd been there the night sharon tate was murdered. but she was involved the next night, stabbing rosemary lablanca 16 times. she was once sat down with diane >> the oe er ild get, the harde it is. i took away all that life. >> reporter: director john waters began a friendship with van houten, while writing a piece for "rolling stone." he has visited her dozens of times and is now publicly arguing for van houten's parole. >> she's a changed woman. she went in a complete lunatic and came out, if she ever does, an incredibly mature woman. >> reporter: but a retired prosecutor, whose job it was to argue against the murderers' release -- at 60 parole hearings -- makes the same argument. >> but do they deserve tbe outside in normal society? not for what they did, no, never. >> susan atkins husband will also argue releasing his wife to die at home will save the state money in hospital charges. we look back in depth at our itc website, abcnews.

tex watson, leslie van houten, patricia krenwinkle and susan watson.atson and krenwinkle took part in all seven murders, five at the home of actress sharon tate in beverly hills and the next day they came to this house with van houten where they tortured and killed lino and rosemary labianca. >> i stood in the hallway and i looked into a blank room that was like a den. i stood there until tex turned me around and handed me a knife and he said, do something. i went back in the bedroom and mrs. labianca was laying on the floor on her stomach and i stabbed her numerous times in the back. >> reporter: atkins was with watson and krenwinkle holts down 8 1/2 month pregnant sharon tate as she pea pleaded for her and her child's life. >> she asked me for mercy. i told her i didn't have mercy. >> reporter: how skmoon vinced his flock to kill and torture without remorse baffled the world. manson family members said it was a combination of charisma, drugs and manson's knack for recruiting the right group of vulnerable followers. >> we were like little birds with o

leslie van houten chose to follow the instructions of charles manson. chose drug crazed can i recalls as her family and she became one of them. but what about my family? when do we get our parole? when does leno get his parole? sympathy for these killers, and especially this one, is misplaced. we want to update you on the breaking news out of western pennsylvania. new and chilling detail es merging fra a shooting in a health club south of pittsburgh where five are reported dead including the gunman who apparently killed himself according to local authorities. 15 people are wounded. wtae says a man with a duffel bag walked into an exercise room and turned off the lights before opening fire. police describe a team of utter terror, some of it lit only by the flash of a muzzle. >> i was in a spinning class. i stopped to wash my hands and at that point i heard what i thought to be gun fire. >> what you were not expecting. >> i talked myself out of it. i was like okay, surely that's not gun fire in a gym. a few seconds later a guy came run into a locker room.

greta: rumors ran wild when leslie van houten's lawyer ronald hughes disappeared four months into the up to the hot springs area of ventura county to work on his argument. the court reconvenes the following monday and he did not show up. >> my god, i just wonder if the family -- >> from what anyone could discern, a flash flood came along and washed him away. greta: in january of 1971, it took the jury seven days to reach a verdict. >> it was our belief that the jury could only come to one verdict, guilty. >> each defendant was convicted of every count of which they were charged. greta: the four were sentenced to death. on march 29, 1971, in october, tex watson was also convicted for the tate-labianca murders and sentenced to death. >> next year, 1972, the california and u.s. supreme court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional and everyone on death row in the country, their death penalty sentenced were reduced from death to life in prison. greta: the five remain incarcerated and have regular parole hearings. >> i don't harbor hate for them. i wish them the best. within cont

greta: rumors ran wild when leslie van houten's lawyer ronald hughes disappeared four months into thek on his argument. the court reconvenes the following monday and he did not show up. >> my god, i just wonder if the family -- >> from what anyone could discern, a flash flood came along and washed him away. greta: in january of 1971, it took the jury seven days to reach a verdict. >> it was our belief that the jury could only come to one verdict, guilty. >> each defendant was convicted of every count of which they were charged. greta: the four were sentenced to death. on march 29, 1971, in october, tex watson was also convicted for the tate-labianca murders and sentenced to death. >> next year, 1972, the california and u.s. supreme court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional and everyone on death row in the country, their death penalty sentenced were reduced from death to life in prison. greta: the five remain incarcerated and have regular parole hearings. >> i don't harbor hate for them. i wish them the best. within controled environment situations. greta: squeaky fromme

greta: rumors ran wild when leslie van houten's lawyer ronald hughes disappeared four months into theughes goes up to the hot springs area of ventura county to work on his argument. the court reconvenes the following monday and he did not show up. >> my god, i just wonder if the family -- >> from what anyone could discern, a flash flood came along and washed him away. greta: in january of 1971, it took the jury seven days to reach a verdict. >> it was our belief that the jury could only come to one verdict, guilty. >> each defendant was convicted of every count of which they were charged. greta: the four were sentenced to death. on march 29, 1971, in october, tex watson was also convicted for the tate-labianca murders and sentenced to death. >> next year, 1972, the california and u.s. supreme court ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional and everyone on death row in the country, their death penalty sentenced were reduced from death to life in prison. greta: the five remain incarcerated and have regular parole hearings. >> i don't harbor hate for them. i wish them the best. w

>> anderson: there's no way charles manson -- >> not manson, but some of the women may get out. van houten specifically. >> anderson: why her? >> she has distinguished herself behind bars, she has tried so desperately to do good behind bars. she's got the best chance. >> anderson: there is this woman susan atkins, 61 years old, she has a terminal brain tumor. tried to get out -- >> she's 61. how old was sharon tate when she was murdered and her unborn child who never had a chance. she's 61. so what? >> anderson: so you don't think the brain tumor should play into it? >> no, absolutely not. i don't think any of them should be par roled. it was mass murder. are they going to parole them? probably. do i think they should? no. >> anderson: what is it about charles manson that fascinates people so long? >> the mystique created a cult-like following and he had the gaggle of beautiful young women that surrounded him and loved him. they were all in love with him. >> anderson: i wasn't really cognizant when he was committing these crimes. i have only seen tapes of him later. it's hard to believe an

leslie van houten has 121 i.x., in the top 5% of people in the u.s.he admitted in her cross-examination it took her two days whether or not she could commit murder and she made that decision before manson or anyone else asked her. >> i know you've over the years you have gone to a number of the parole hearings in california to argue against parole. we appreciate you taking time to speak to us tonight. thanks. >> thank you very much. >>> from manson to the moonwalk. 1969 was full of historic and horrific moments. read about all of them, the bad and of course many of the good at ac360.com. >>> a 360 follow-up for you. what killed billy mays? >>> an incredible sight you have to see. is it too good to be true? we'll investigate. it's our "shot" of the day. >>> let's get you caught up on the day's other stories. gary tuchman joining us again with the 360 bulletin tonight. >> erica, 360 follow. florida officials say tv pitchman billy mays had cocaine in his system when he died. medical examiner revealing today the drug contributed to the heart disease that

leslie van houten is also longing for freedom.his is what she said in 2004. >> i was raised to be a decent human being. i turned into a monster, and i have spent these years going back to a decent human being. and i just don't know what else to say. >> reporter: ted rowlands, cnn, los angeles. >> amazing. tomorrow, the manson killers. the woman who followed his orders to murder 40 years later. they say they've changed. you heard them asking for forgiveness. and they also want their freedom. should they get it? we'll let you decide tomorrow. >>> for a full timeline of the manson murders and to see crime scene photos and more background, logon to our website, ac360.com. >>> just ahead -- 70% of children in america are in need of an important vitamin. what is it and what can parents do? we'll have the answer next. >> plus, demolition disaster. find out where this implosion -- keep watching -- went terribly wrong. >>> just ahead, tonight's shot. a building demolition didn't exactly go as planned. first, gary tuchman joining us with a

leslie van houten has 121 i.q, puts her in the top 5% of people in the u.s.he admitted under my cross-examination it took her two days whether or not she could commit murder and she made that decision before manson or anyone else asked her. >> i know you've over the years you have gone to a number of the parole hearings in california to argue against parole. for many of the manson family members. you definitely have a unique insight into this case. we appreciate you taking time to speak to us tonight. thanks. >> thank you very much. >>> from manson to the moonwalk. 1969 was full of historic and horrific moments. read about all of them, the bad and of course many of the good at ac360.com. >>> ahead, a 360 follow for you. what killed tv pitchman billy mays? shocking details just revealed. >>> an incredible sight you really have to see. is it too good to be true? we'll investigate. five co-workers are working from the road using a mifi, a mobile hotspot that provides up to five shared wifi connections. two are downloading the final final revised final presentati

. >> reporter: atkins, kremwinkle and van houten said they left broken homes and watson would be manson'sten older. the courthouse smiles and giggles replaced with pleas for forgiveness. >> i'm appalled that i could have even been involved with something like that. >> i feel terrible about it, but i cannot change it. no matter what i do, i cannot change one minute of my life. >> granted, i have committed one of the heinous crimes in the history of mankind and i realize that and i'm very remorseful for that and would give anything if i could pay for it. >> first sentenced to death, the manson killers were given life sentences when the death penalty was abolished by the state supreme court. charles manson remains in prison and has, over the years, attended his parole hearings. susan atkins has terminal brain cancer. last year her request for compassionate release was denied, but she's scheduled for a parole hearing next month. krenwinkal and watson have parole hearings before the end of the year and not expected to have a hearing before 2010. all claim they're remorseful but the family of s

and we have a gallery of the key players like leslie van houten, who helped to hold a woman down as sheas stabbed to death by another member of the family. now she's been involved in prison programs, mentoring other inmates, chuck, and they say she is the best candidate for parole. susan atkins, perhaps the most infamous after manson himself, stabbed then-pregnant actress sharon tate 16 times as she was pleading for mercy. well, now she has been denied parole 17 times and she is terminally ill with brain cancer. charles "tex" watson stabbed the actress, stabbed another and shot two others. s he's been in prison converting to christianity and became an ordained minister. and squeaky fromme is up after her arrest for pointing a gun at president ford. she was sentenced to life in prison but is actually set to be released on parole on the 16th of august. you can check out the gallery, learn more about their fascinating lives. many of them really as some would say model prisoners. that's on cnn.com. >> what's the latest with manson himself? >> 74 years of age right now. he has another parole