>> van hove: no, no, no, no. >> whitaker: never?o, the challenges were high. and of course you know that it will be a-- a journey. you know, it took us a while to bing all the elements, you know, in a perfect balance. so, no, it's a normal process, in this case a very intense one. come on. bang. where's the rain? >> whitaker: something else they had to fix: the rain. a deluge that soaks the actors and sometimes musicians in the orchestra pit. >> van hove: let's go on. >> whitaker: the calm in the middle of the storm: ivo van hove. you take notes on everything. the next day you go up and you have production meetings with the-- with the crew, and you-- you go work with the actors. i mean, this seems like a grueling process >> van hove: i-- i love that. i feel like a-- a fish in the ocean, you know? and-- and the ocean is a dangerous place to be sometimes, you know, but also a great place to be. i love the sometimes violent, but always the-- the high energy of a rehearsal-- process. >> whitaker: as the show evolved, we saw as much dram

be fast, flexible, but large as well and i would certainly stand by those three object gives. jan van hovecovery fund? good morning. actually, i think this is a very historical european summit because actually we are going to combine two things. you have the multi annual european budget which is always important and on the other hand you have this new fund, next—generation eu instrument, and by combining these two things, the european leaders hope to find an agreement among all the eu member states because there will be something for everyone in these two instruments. for example, southern europe is very interested in support because of the major impact caused by the pandemic, at the same time central eastern european countries are still worried about their long—term convergence process in about their long—term convergence process in europe so therefore they will probably get something out of this european budget, the traditional european budget, so by combining these two, i think we probably have the most important debates among european political leaders probably in a century. who do you