van jones elected tea parties. diane, it is hard to drum up an opposition movement when you are in power. but i don't think for example the people occupying wall street think they are in power. >> well, the wall street movement is against the people on wall street. van jones is trying to drum up support for a political movement, and right now the democrats are in power. >> right, but van jones is not talking about drumming up democrats hee. is talking about doing what the tea party is doing. >> but are you talking about rallying behind obama. >> somebody was talking in my ear annoyingly jie. he is talking about rallying around obama. >> i don't think he is talking necessarily about rallying obama. his point was the mistake that progressives made was they put all of their eggs in one basket with obama. they have to realize the movement needs to be bigger than that. in a similar way what he was saying was the tea party isn't tied to one particular person. it is based on issues. >> the tea party isn't tied to a partic

everything that i heard van jones they is something that i'm pretty sure the white house would be on board with are we from the surface i think they're still waiting to see sort of how the occupy wall street protests take shape before they sort of comment or react so i haven't seen much although there's a chance he have all right and the part of the party that we're comparing this to that they're comparing it to is the tea party and the idea what this party would be called if it were to emerge that's a good question i don't know that that's probably a good idea about debate if they're going to come up with a unified message they should come up with a unified. voice. and that was our correspondent christine as out now occupy wall street is venting their anger at the corporate elite that they say is staring our economy into a depression they say corporations have infiltrated our politics resulting in a nation that is not so democratic and you more beyond the economy what other ways can corporations be running the lives of the masses some say their power is so vast that they dictate not

correspondent christine did the take back the american dream conference and spoke to van jones to learn more about it. you could say this is where it all started. the fight for labor rights in wisconsin today it continues that was as a nationwide protest against the power of the wall street and is evolving into what some are now calling a revolution. on the streets and off the street. hoping to add fuel to this grassroots fire hundreds of progressive groups and leaders are latching on including van jones and the campaign to take back the american dream at a conference of the same name we went from hopi to mopey and they got to build a group in the middle this movement is now being built according to lawmakers and labor leaders alike i think america knows who's responsible and they're upset by it and they're upset that these folks are still living as if they hadn't destroyed millions of lives and i think that's going to spread across the country and i think in spreading because those with all the wealth are hoarding it and people need jobs are getting them it's time they say to find the

van jones is calling the calls for a connection to an arab spring just like michael moore is you're allowing yourself . to the truth is not free speech and this is you have to respond there's not hence there are los angeles girls there's like fantasizing reality doesn't exist van jones is not part of the star movement he's a he's a he's a democrat he believes in electing democrats the occupy movement is independent of both parties the obama's the obama and the democrats embrace as they're going to be very sad to see that were we protesting them as well because we see them as part of the crony capitalist corrupt economy that has resulted in four hundred people have as much wealth as one hundred fifty four million not because they're smarter or work harder but because they are politically connected and essentially bribing through campaign donations the the tea party is not our alternative we don't see ourselves. when we started this six months ago we started organizing in washington d.c. six months ago for this before the occupy movement and wall street store we embraced and supported

even was van jones the green energy czar for the white house for about six months resigned in a scandal that had to do with going back and all this other stuff but i think that . everything that i heard van jones say is something that i'm pretty sure the white house would be on board with at least on the surface i think they're still waiting to see sort of how the occupy wall street protests take shape before they sort of comment or react so i haven't seen much although there's a chance for the house all right and the part of the party that we're comparing this to that they're comparing it to is the tea party and the idea what this party would be called if it were to emerge that's a good question i don't know that that's probably a good idea if they're going to come up with a unified message they should come up with a unified. voice van jones' new thing that he started is called rebuild the dream this is called take back the american dream some of the protesters on wall street call themselves the ninety nine er's as far as a name though maybe this is too too much in the early stages but

van jones using the momentum of occupy wall street to bring more attention to their own events to their own causes and some see that as a great step forward others of course are concerned about the movement being hijacked by the same powers that they're meant to be protesting i think only times going to tell but we'll be sure to keep following it and finally our last comment comes from a viewer who really liked our show last thursday we went down to freedom plaza and conducted interviews on the ground black bird isms said on you tube i hope we get to streets alone to do a live broadcast from freedom plaza unfortunately we don't have resources the moment to take our show down to freedom plaza and do it live but we're very happy like a change of scenery and thank you for watching i love going out there myself so we're going to try to find more opportunities to hit the streets as you say that's it for my ranting today have to have more for you later in the week. and now in u.s. attorney general eric holder said the government is actively pursuing a criminal investigation of wiki leaks he m

back the american dream conference and green three thousand said on you tube by the way alone a van jones had his rebuild the dream conference scheduled long before occupy wall street happened just to keep you on it and i appreciate you keeping up with the facts and yes perhaps i didn't state it in the interview clearly enough van jones had planned his conference long before occupy wall street became a movement the same way as the october two thousand and eleven movement was planned here in washington months ago or seeing now is people like van jones using the momentum of occupy wall street to bring more attention to their own events to their own causes and some see that as a great step. forward others of course are concerned about the movie being hijacked by the same powers that they're meant to be protesting i think only time's going to tell that we'll be sure to keep following it and finally our last comment comes in a viewer who really liked our show last thursday we went down to freedom plaza and conducted interviews on the ground black bird isms said on you tube i hope we hit the st

let's bring in the president and cofounder of rebuild the dream.com, van jones. mr. jones, good to have you with us tonight. i'd like you -- you have been a focal point when it comes to attacks from the right wing. the description of these protesters, i think, is despicable by the right wing. does this fuel the protest or not have an affect at all? what do you think. >> i don't think the people who are standing up for the middle class and standing up for the american dream care one wit about any of this stuff. listen, americans have hit a pain threshold. you have people sitting on a white hot stove for three years. d.c. has done nothing about it, despite the best efforts of our best people there. wall street is being more contemptuous and dumping more pain on the people and foebs are starting to holler. when somebody sits on a white hot stove for three years you can't critique how they holler. some say they don't have message clarity. no one in the white house has message clarity. they have moral clarity. we need to listen and represent them. >> i had a conversation w

remember, joe van jones -- van jones is who we're talking about who used to be the greens czar for thesident of the united states until some information came up about 9/11 and whether or not he was a truther and that sort of thing and he had to step down from his post so here was joe biden yesterday on a radio show trying to recall that guy. >> we have been in this period where there's just nothing but fighting and so you have on the one end, van jones' guys, whoever he is, talking about -- >> used to be in the administration. used to be green czar. >> all right. well, you know, the point is talking about the excesses of wall street and there's some truth in what he says and the tea party, there's some truth in what they say. i don't have a disagreement -- >> are we sure that was joe biden talking about the tea party because he was almost respectful there and in the past, of course, he has referred to members of the tea party -- tea party in congress as terrorists but there he was talking with jack harris on wfla radio station down there. but what mr. biden, perhaps, forgot was van jon

at the same time van jones is here right now is another progressive conference going on so how do you get it to the point where all these groups can really be unified. well i don't think you want to be unified in fact i think one of the silliest things to happen in the past few days is the move on van jones attempt to co-opt the energy. of the anger at the banks on the democratic party i'm sorry but when you had control of the federal government for the majority of the past three years it's really kind of rival to suggest that this is all the republicans fault and that somehow you're entitled to this energy you know until some serious self reflection happens on the part of democratic leaders about why we're in this state and why they haven't done any more about it i don't think that scheduling their own competing protests the day before rather than trying to help the actual protesters out who have brought this to the national attention is either legitimate or morally justifiable all right so you think they're just co-opting you know riding the wave on their momentum on that place if w

it's the best thing in america right now. >> van jones, appreciate your time. let's turn to joan walsh. editor at large of salon.com and mike papantonio. joan, it would seem to me that this really sets the table for walsh to run against congress. i mean there are so many avenues he can follow right here. the angst in the country and he's the one out there advocating the simple thing of jobs. what do you make of it. >> i want to point to the president taking a much more populous line even before occupy wall street. so he deserves credit on that front for sure. at the same time, ed, occupy wall street has done what we have not as the rest have been able to do for generations. i love hearing van say that, you know, occupy wall street should co-op the democrats. i know there is a lot of fear about just becoming another appendage of a democratic party. so i think that role for a lot of us right now should be listening and paying attention and dialogue rather than saying you guys have to vote. you have to vote for obama. i'm taking a kind of curious wait and see post

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and that one will be run by van jones. these people are useful idiots. they will be brought up. there will be chaos and violence in the streets. and then van jones will appear with his nice little organization that looks far more reasonable. that's why they destroyed the tea party. did everything they could to destroy the tea party. >> bill: tea party is still viable it? >> is. but the media tried to destroy it and did everything they could to destroy it. they are doing that now to the country. >> bill: we are going to prove that two segments down. we have some studies on how the media covered the tea party as opposed to this. all right, beck. we are going to be watching gbtv. >> thank you. >> bill: keep doing that work. all of you check out beck's stuff on glenn beck.com. >> let me just say best book "killing lincoln" outrageously great book. read it. >> bill: i appreciate it. >> you bet. >> bill: geraldo gets up close and personal with some the protesters. not a great persons for him. he will be here. he will be here. miller and i [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a bo

truth in what he says and the tea party, there's some truth in what they say. >> he point today van jonesen czar in 2009 and jones resigned six months later. the latest version of the i-phone making its debut. apple said it's faster and more powerful than the last. it's the apple 4s. it's a better camera, and just about everyone will carry it. at & t.,ver rice son and sprint. one thing missing ceo steve jobs. tim cook is making his first appearance since taking over. preorders start on friday for the i-phone 4s. >> and caught on camera, a large black bear decided to go out for pizza. he walked through an open door in a pizza shop in british columbia etch walked up to the counter and grabbed the pizza from the display. he ate one slice and then had another. he managed to polish off a pie before they scared him away. his choice was beef and blue cheese, of course. and come up, did you see what he did? nothing is safe around here. we will have it on video. brett my never talk to us again, though. [ dad ] i'm usually checking up on my kids. but last year my daughter was checking up on me. i w

led by former obama administration advisor, van jones, the group is trying to get liberals to seek out forcefully on liberal issues as the tea party does on conservative ones. >> we're going to get from some leaders and we'll hear from the people struggling and fighting every day with no help. not no help from the majority here and -- >> reporter: organizers have been meeting in d.c. for three days new trying to come up with ways for liberals and democratic voters to be more forceful and issue their support like passing the job's bill. >> reporter: recently lost my house. i have three kids and i have had to turn to food pantries the first time. and -- sorry, this is kind of hard. >> i'm tired of being sick and tired of being unemployed. for three years, i have been looking for a job. >> reporter: the protestors may not be the only ones being watched on thursday washington, d.c., recently had to pay out millions of dollars to people arrested a decade ago because of police tactics during the world bank and imf protests. this is all to get underway tomorrow, brian, at noon. >>> coming up,

now it looks like the unions are joining forces and van jones, remember him, as the green czar underma before he was forced out, he's calling now for this sort of left wing tea party. do you buy it? >> well, these professional agitators have been lurking in the background. a lot of the occupy wall street folks i think are feeling a little resentment that they're trying to jump in front of the parade now. but they've been doing the same kind of thing, organizing these sorts of street marches for a while now. i think what they wanted to do was wait and see if the day of rage would come of anything. remember, this has been going on for almost a month now. they've been keeping an eye on it. and van jones, of course, launched this new american dream initiative, which is going to rely on a lot of these street people to keep it going. i think what's worrisome now is the fact that you've got this muscle on the ground and we have seen that they are willing to push the limits to provoke the police to make themselves look like victims in order to rally the base. i think that a lot of these occu

martha: now we know what van jones is doing. we found him. what do you think about that statement, steve? >> well, i think the only thing that these protesters have in common with the tea party is that they're protesting and that it has something vaguely to do with money. otherwise they have nothing to do with the tea party. there is no political movement there. there is no thirst for any kind of a political movement there. they wouldn't have the backing of the american public. if you look at gallop surveys over past few years on numbers of people who identify themselves as conservative, moderate and liberals, 40% self-identified conservatives. 36% self-identified moderates and just 20% self-identified liberals. this is a fraction of that smallest grouping. so these people have no base. there is no political movement there. there is no hope there will be a political movement there. they're just out there because they're frustrated. >> one thing that the head of the tea party suppress said, if there is any similarity at all there seems to be a

van jones with the american dream movement. a short amount of time.to. >> sure. this week you have the, finally, occupy wall street broke through, also, that was in new york. also in washington, d.c., we had the take back the american dream summit. more than 2,000 progressive activists were here. 200 organizations and basically came together and said, listen, this is the moment to begin the progressive fight back. call it the american ougautumn. the arab spring, this is the american autumn. make wall street pay. between september 17th when the occupation started and november 17th when we're going to have protests across the country, major, major re-birth of the progressive movement, and we're going to run for office. this is news to a lot of your people. we decided we're going to run at progressive american dream candidates, 2,000 progressives across the country in 2012. >>> naomi klein, writing a book an climate change and clean energy. everybody bit as exceptional, and maria hosa, lost and detention aired october 18th. pbs frontline. check it out. a

if you look at all the big stories, whether it was the resignation of van jones, who was a top official in the obama administration; the town halls; the so-called "death panels"--all of those stories started either on right-wing radio, cable tv, or the internet. and in almost every case, it took several days for mainstream media--the big networks and the big newspapers--to even write about them. they were sort of--they weren't even as relevant to the big stories as they have been in the past, and i think that is changing. and there's a part of it that's not a good thing, because so much cable, talk radio, internet--so much of it does play off of confrontation that it can have this huge exaggerating effect on the importance of the story. >> ...more responsibility, then, for the viewer and the listener to sort through. >> well, that's right, if the viewer or listener has the opportunity to do so. >> good point. so where do you go to sort out what's true from what's not true? we turn now to some other web sites. sonya gavankar has that for us. sonya? >> well, factcheck.org is one of those

we have been period where there's just nothing to explain and so you have on the wanted van jones you guys were for years talking about used to be a ministry. you should be a great example oh yeah ok. i just love this so much i think this may be my favorite biden gaffe yet aside from real why sizably told everybody not to fly and you have to travel on your last years night in denver know there is a one n one virus. and a good band jones whoever that guy is he was in there it is still raising and he's a very public figure not just a random person you know like a two thousand yeah i do know he was i don't want to buy yeah that stuff although you gotta wonder what is going astray here you don't blame you for not knowing who he is i look looking at you i didn't really come up lake exit why didn't you i forget that i know i forgot the name joe it was a story i know i'm just saying but it was like a wind up gaffe machine like one of those little monkeys of clap cymbals together across the floor spider it is fantastic it's wonderful we all sort of wonder what makes them capable of what. i do

drawn and they're angered by the same exact problems that we are it's interesting i was talking to van jones the other day on who's just started this rebuild the dream organization he was at the take back the american dream conference and he said you know i'm not mad at the tea party for being so loud and at us for being so quiet and wondering how you and others plan on being heard and what you plan to do i mean certainly camping out for a long time is a statement but what else is in the works here well the revolution cannot be copied it cannot be cut and pasted so originally when the october two thousand and eleven call. i gather the idea was we're going to not leave this is not going to be polite we're not going to ask permission and we're going to try to replicate what happened until we are square but of course even that's problematic because look at what happened in egypt they haven't closed the deal they still have the military to contend with so it shows the difficulty of trying to overthrow a corrupt regime here in the united states the regimes infinitely more corrupt and more dangero

organizers of the take back the american dream conference the occupy wall street is taking off in fact van jones when giving his keynote address spoke about occupy wall street and the fact the marines were going down to wall street to protect them to get the crowd fired up. if you protect. me. that might. mean that i did a bad. thing that i. know you know if. you do that. but do occupy wall street taking back america have anything in common or is the professional left just trying to co-opt it really is a grassroots movement are discussed as a thing as david dam blogger at firedoglake dot com david thanks so much for joining us today thanks for having me now for starters you've been at this conference covering and tell us what it's like is it a really exciting place has there well it's interesting i mean you know last year i think there was this sort of overwhelming sense of dread that we're about to get our clocks cleaned in the two thousand and ten elections them and there wasn't a whole lot to be excited about and i do think that this grassroots uprising which is sort of in the ether for a lit

got van jones whoever that guy is he was in there are greater stories right and he's a very public figure not just a random person you know like a two thousand yeah i mean i don't know who he was i don't want to buy yeah i read that stuff although you gotta wonder what is going astray go you don't blame you for not knowing who he is i look looking at you i merely club leg exit why do you think i forget that i know i forgot to say and you know it was this coming i know i'm missing but it is like a wind up gaffe machine like one of those little monkeys a clap cymbals together across the floor despising it is fantastic is wonderful we also have to wonder like what makes them capable of like swallowing up that i don't know all star wars dimentia. whatever it's cool joe you know it's cool yeah i like this like i'm hoping i want to get. my words or demand to hear i'm going to such a sad person but it's right now it's really funny whatever it is of medical conditions stories of aids you know so it really is not the first time this ever happened but a giant breast implant saved a woman's life and