miss van kleek earned her ncies.chelor of science degree fromd mechanical and aeronautical engineering from university of california and has extensive and hands-on experience in rocket research and development, liquid rocket, system design, development and testing., there' gosh, there's a lot of great stuff here. she also is a chairperson of tha european space propulsion boarde of directors.rsrectors. so, anyway, i guess to summarize this, and in julie's own words, she truly is a rocket scientist. so, julie?e tru >> i used to be. i'm going to go over here. can i have the first slide, o please?v i think that's the last slide. isn't it? oh, well. what i'm going to talk about is actually the -- you know, going to mars and how that affects yo u.s. competitiveness. and i'm going to do that from s. the standpoint of being a rocket company. r as i start this out, let me talt about what competitiveness is. i'm sure everybody has a different idea of what that omp means, if you look at definitions. it's the ability to sell thi