after judge robert vance was killed in alabama in 1989, his eldest son, bob vance, jr., went on himself to become a judge in the great state of alabama. his daughter-in-law, married to judge vance's eldest son, went on to become a federal prosecutor in alabama. and there's not that many alabama cases that rise to the level of national news, but the killing of judge robert vance in alabama was one of those cases. killed him with that pipe bomb stuffed with shrapnel that went off in his kitchen in 1989. another alabama bombing case that made national news was part of the string of bombings carried out by the atlanta olympics bomber eric rudolph, who bombed the olympics, an abortion clinic and a lesbian bar between 1996 and 1998. the bomb prosecutor who handled the bombing of the abortion clinic in birmingham was the daughter-in-law of judge robert vance, who himself was killed in that terroristic bombing nine years earlier. we actually contacted that former prosecutor today when these bombs started turning up in democratic party and media mailboxes up and down the eastern seaboard. she to

and joyce vance is back with us. and lisa, i was so struck by just how politicized and angry this event was tonight. both by the president and by brett kavanaugh. >> it really was extraordinary. and you had all the members of the supreme court sitting there in that room and predominantly republican operatives and republican politicians, and it was really surprising to hear brett kavanaugh praise chuck grassly for his fairness, praise don mcgahn for his fairness when everyone in the country who is a partisan knows they participated to basically truncate that fbi investigation of the charges against brett kavanaugh. and then to hear president trump claim that brett kavanaugh's proven innocent, what happened was in fact the republican party was proven guilty of their willingness to ignore a track record of lies and compelling eyewitness testimony by dr. ford and put this man on the court despite evidence that he engaged in sexual assault and sexual misconduct. >> i want to listen to one other thing that brett kavanaugh

back with me now joyce vance and matt miller. just to be clear everybody knows roger stone is a close associate , joy joyce, what do you make of this news? >> we know there's connections between roger stone and democratic e-mails that have been hacked. there's a little uncertainty about whether he was fired or left voluntarily, but he at least theoretically had access. given all of that information mueller will run-down all of those leads and see whether or not there really was communication between stone and the rugs. and if so, whether that communication then went back and forth with the campaign. that's what this whole ball game is about. >> so, matt, roger stone didn't deny the julian assange working on a pardon for him, which is interesting because roger stone denies having ever talked to julian assange. if i'd ever like to help anybody get a pardon i'd like to have dinner with them or something like that. but roger stone has changed his story many times. here's what he told "the times" in 2017 about russia and the trump cam

attorney joyce vance is with me as well. pete, bring us up to speed on where we are in terms of the investigation? >> ten devices as you say. they were looking for one package that they believed was sent to vice president biden because someone in the postal service thought they saw it go by yesterday, and so it was sent -- it was thought that it was in the system. the postal service determined that it wasn't delivered to biden's house but probably had insufficient postage, and they assumed it was back in florida, but it was found this morning at a post office in new castle, delaware. this is the package you're looking for, and you can see postage due on it. i guess $0.75. that's why it wasn't delivered, and then a second device was found at another post office in delaware in wilmingtowilmington delaware. two sent to biden, and we found out last night, craig, that two were sent to congresswoman maxine water, one was found in los angeles at a main screening facility, another in a facility outside of washington that screens mai

attorney joyce vance, power up anchor jackie alamani. she also covered trump's campaign. nick confessore and rick stengel, former under secretary of state for public diplomacy, steve schmidt joins us as well. steve, let me start with you. what's happening in america right now? >> an historic event. we haven't seen anything like it since the night abraham lincoln was assassinated. this was a mass assassination attempt, including two former presidents, a former vice president of the united states, a former attorney general of the united states, a former chairwoman of the democratic national committee. the person who is responsible for sending bombs to all of those people is the person who mailed the bombs. donald trump did not mail the bombs, but he created the atmosphere where a sick person would look at those individuals and see an enemy. trump makes no pretense about being the commander in chief of all of the country, being president of all of the people, including the people that voted against him. he is in effect a tribal chiefton who has declared war on half of the co

they denied the charges and said it was political retaliation by vance.t turns out the ousted newsweek journalists were onto something big. >>> the following about a senior white house official is not an on i don't know headline. steven miller's third grade teacher, he was a loner and ate glue. they said he was a strange dude who would pour glue on his arm -- hold on. he was 8 years old. the l.a. school district put a teacher on paid leave. >>> finally, axios reporter jonathan shwam was on hard balling going off on mitch mcconnell's strong arm tactics on judicial nominees and didn't like the nonpartisan balance. >> of courses going to ram through someone in the last year of trump's presidency and come up with a new just a justificat. the democrats will do the same thing. >> don't go through this even handed nonsense. >> i happen to like his even handed p nonsense. but then, my job isn't to promote the democrats every night. that's it for this edition of media buzz. check out my new podcast, media buzz meter, we kick around the day's five most important or

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attorney joyce vance, and here at the table, "new york times" reporter mike schmidt.nection as with the mail bomber, as with the shooting at the synagogue, between donald trump and the alleged incident, but donald trump, you reported that donald trump and his legal team have made smearing bob mueller part of their legal strategy. >> yeah, but this -- they've really struggled to undermine mueller throughout this entire thing. the biggest punch that was landed was last year when it came out there were these text messages between these two agents that were, you know, negative toward trump. otherwise, they really struggled and mueller has gone through a trial now. there was all this talk in trump world and manafort world that there were these killer motions that were going to take mueller out, going to upend him and destroy the justice department investigation. they've now gone through a trial with manafort, gotten convictions. manafort has pled. in a sense, they're pitching a shutout. you can see where in the desperate move, one side that has nothing really to throw woul

i'm join by judge vance son.thank you so much. >> thank you. >> it's a rarity in our life these pipe bombs. this one had all the elements necessary to blow up. for whatever reason it didn't. p maybe people could tell and took the preparations to avoid any disaster. your thoughts when you heard about this. >> it took me back 30 years to my own father's death from the package bomb that he opened up in the comfort of our kitchen at our home in birmingham. i brought back a lot of bad memories from that day. i am so thankful that no one was hurt today with so many bombs that were mailed to so many people. not one injury as a result of that. we should really be thankful that there was no loss of life or any injuries. >> i guess the element of terror in mail bomb is it goes right into your house and like your father's kitchen. it could be more sbintimate. there it is blowing up in your face, literally. >> it's so random and senseless. you never anticipate or expect anything like that happening. in our case, there was ne

attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a former prosecutor and mick cag eoyang, a former staffer for the house intelligence and armed services committees. welcome back to both of you. joyce, i have a two-part question. number one, your reaction to what transpired today. people know that you were appointed to office as a u.s. attorney by president barack obama. your reaction to what happened today and secondly, to the documents like the one we were handed tonight that are probably going to keep coming out. this is another friend of dr. ford's talking about how and when they were told about her accusation, her past. >> so i think the answer actually to both parts of your question comes down to the same ball of wax. this is the price that we will likely continue to pay both the court as an institution and the judges on the court themselves for what was at best a hurriedly executed perhaps slipshod fbi investigation. if judge kavanaugh is blameless in this entire scenario, he would have been much better served and the court much better served by an fbi investigation that was permitte

that was a rebalancing nike has fallen in vance, continued to rise. found interesting, we ask an area in the survey what's the hottest trend in school now, and among males, nike, brand jordan did start to pick up. first time you saw one potential indicator. but it is still too soon to call with this demographic. >> erin, before we let you go, i want to get your thoughts on social media usage here. it had been that snapchat was really, really popular with young adults and with teenagers, but instagram has taken over as number one according to the survey >> instagram is the most used social platform, 85% cited as such snapchat was a hair below, 84% we continue to see instagram on the rise we have seen teens when we asked them what platform is best for brands to communicate with, instagram is number one on that question as well facebook engagement has been declining in the survey. >> erin murphy, thank you. >> thank you. >>> piper surveys are fun to watch. >> crocs >> close to session lows dow down 170 s&p not quite session lows we're voya! we stay with

jersey dan i was in fort bliss texas for vance individual training and went from there to california and shipped to be an all in the same year and what aspect of the military was it was in the me i was in small it's a little. thing called quad fifties it was cool fifty caliber machine guns mounted on a turret which was on the back of a deuce of a half or five ton truck i know dennis. and what division were you in and all that she better be sixty fifth that till. now where did you go first in vietnam denying then i was shipped off to. and everywhere you went it was just nuts. i was on the front line ninety percent of my time. i was in ash valley i don't know if you ever heard of hamburg until. i was on eagle's nest which overlooked the valley we were surrounded one night and they brought off the magic dragon puff the magic trick it . was a c one thirty seven napalm c one thirty had many guns and the whole underneath of the c one thirty full of ammunition. that told you i was just to shoot just to shoot everybody back to protect you guys you know they shot all night and then when they

that they will find together against any pro migrant stances from politicians they say such as he vance's emanuel mack on and it seems that this is a shtick that many voters like and seem to be viewing towards if you look at the trend over the last year or so there has been a movement towards these anti immigrant parties they've been good results for them in countries such as sweden germany denmark and the netherlands as well as in other countries some people are predicting that this trend could continue for them into those elections next year in two thousand and nineteen and it seems that these anti immigrant parties according to some analysts could reap as much as an increase of sixty percent of the vote the trend that is the richest in national elections and longer a member states. knows the. citizens are not so trusting the longer globalise the group. is that you should. close. to you if you can majority of people into this kind of party. brett kavanaugh has been sworn in as a judge in the united states' highest court after a deeply contentious nomination process a brief f.b.i. invest

attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. carol, i saw you on our 4:00 p.m. broadcast and we agree on one central point that we can't get beyond. how did roger stone know to predict that clinton's campaign chairman was about to have his turn in the barrel, tony podesta? >> six weeks before the amazing podesta e-mails are leaked. >> how did he know that? >> how did he know that? he says -- he's said a lot of different things but one thing roger stone has said more consistently than others is that he had some research that was provided to him by a conspiracy theorist who passed on something to a journalist and he received this information and it suggested wow, this trove of e-mails that were released about hillary clinton's campaign were missing materials from john podesta, that must be coming. it does seem a also prescient, and people are straining to see how that could be true. >> joyce, if you're mueller, what does stone get you? what does stone bring you? >> stone brings 30 years of relationship with president trump. they've known each other for a long time

jill wine-banks and joyce vance, thank you both. >>> why is the white house so noncommittal about missing journalist jamal khashoggi? looking at that right after this. the nature of a virus is to change. move. mutate. today, life-changing technology from abbott is helping hunt them down at their source. because the faster we can identify new viruses, the faster we can get to stopping them. the most personal technology, is technology with the power to change your life. life. to the fullest. >>> we have breaking news tonight on the assassination crisis in the middle east from the "washington post." "the washington post" whose columnist jamal khashoggi went missing last week after entering the saudi consulate in istanbul, see him here, the papers reporting tonight the turkish government told u.s. officials it has audio and video recordings that prove khashoggi was indeed killed inside that consulate. "the voice recording from inside the embassy lays out what happened to jamal after he entered, said one person with knowledge of the recording, you can hear his voice, the voices of men speaking

attorney in alabama and professor at the university of alabama school of law, joyce vance.he is also an msnbc contributor. joyce, how significant is this charge just 17 days now before the midterms? >> so this is an incredibly important, it's not an indictment, it's actually charged via a complaint, but it's an important charge that the justice department has brought because it indicates that there's an ongoing effort by russians who are linked to the government to interfere in u.s. elections. nothing stopped in january of 2016. it's all ongoing, and this new charging document puts forward a lot of facts that bring us some flesh to the bones on that. >> joyce, let's talk about paul manafort. he's set to be sentenced, we know, on february 8th. if he's still cooperating with mueller at that time, does that minimize the leverage mueller has over manafort? >> no. you know, this is a little bit of an unusual situation because the practice in the eastern district of virginia is different than the way it works in many other districts. in most federal districts, defendants complete

attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance and former federal prosecutor nelson cunningham.come. let's get into it, joyce, and talk about that clip. that same year kavanaugh wrote an extensive report on impeachment in politics and said whether the constitution allows indictment of a sitting president is debatable. interpret all of this and does the constitution allow indictment? >> kavanaugh's views seem to have changed depending upon who is in power at the moment. i suppose we won't really find out what his actual views are until this issue comes in front of the supreme court where it is inevitably headed given the trajectory that the mueller investigation is on. impeachment is a possibility. indictme indictment, although theoretically possible, is something that's seriously discouraged under current doj policy. both robert mueller and rod rosenstein are institutionalists and traditionalists and i think it's unlikely we will see an indictment from them. i have to comment on that first clip that you played, i can't let that go, this whole idea that a democratic mob swamped t

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or simply parent according to personal preference we call the views of political commentator david vance and campaigner peter tatchell. the question this case raises is who should be on the birth certificate shouldn't necessarily be mother or father or could it just be parent i would think that it's not really important for legal reasons or any other practical reason why has to be a mother peter just said this let's remove mother from the birth certificate and replace it with something more more nonspecific such as parent but mothers give birth the kids sorry spoiler alert that's how it's been that's how it's always going to be and no one minds of debate are going to change that biological fact why why not just be make a reasonable accommodation in the small number of cases to acknowledge this person of the parents of the child will know that this person is their parent legally as well as in reality this child would become the first child in the history of this country and i believe anywhere else on their birth certificate the word mother is missing so just consider this for a moment can

. >> and joining me now joyce vance former u.s.d msnbc contributor, and joyce, thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> when you are looking back at that piece by tom brokaw and you are thinking of where we are today with the special counsel investigation into the russian meddling and are there parallels that you can draw? >> the parallels are so strong and it is so painful that as a country we are in the same point of time again perhaps this time in a far more serious situation involving foreign intrusions into our election, and echos of the tacky sttackistocracsy and t justice ever since thenme. it's one of the most important precept and our hope is that that carries forward today. >> and one of the things to your point, joyce, that really struck me was when you heard tom talk about the independence of the special counsel. what we have right now is an attorney general who has been attacked by this president and our reporting suggests that he may go after the midterms. does that threaten the

joyce vance, it's always a pleasure. thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> thanks, brian. >>> coming up, a veteran of politics. a veteran of journalism. weighing in on the political implications of all of this when we continue. we continue. the nature of a virus is to change. move. mutate. today, life-changing technology from abbott is helping hunt them down at their source. because the faster we can identify new viruses, the faster we can get to stopping them. the most personal technology, is technology with the power to change your life. life. to the fullest. >>> the whole thing is so disgraceful. so it continues. it's a witch hunt. it's nothing more than a witch hunt. >> president trump, as you've heard, again on defense over this mueller investigation in a week that saw him heavily criticized for his response to the disappearance of this journalist in turkey. with us to talk about it all, clarence page, veteran journalist, columnist for the chicago tribune, and former 11-term republican congressman chris shays

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joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama. to have you here, joyce. >> hey, joy. >> let's go through a couple of things. thing number one, ms. mitchell says this is a hopeless case of he said/she said, and that a reasonable prosecutor would not have moved forward with a case based on what she saw at that hearing. do you as a former prosecutor agree? >> well, two things. first, this is not a he said/she said, at least as dr. ford teased this up. there are two he's in the room and of course dr. ford. so the first thing i would do before making a prosecutive decision or a decision about whether to charge the case is i would want to go and talk to the third person in the room. and the fact that that had not yet happened here would seem to indicate that it would be premature to is say that the case couldn't be prosecuted. and then there is this entire idea that any prosecutor would have an intake interview with the victim, which is essentially what this hearing was getting a first look at the victim's story and then make a decision

i want to bring in former fbi profiler clint van zandt and joyce vance. her father-in-law was killed by a mail bomb. we have talked in the last few days about this. nothing was detonated. is beside the point. at this point. someone targeted people very deliberately in the united states. thank god to our law enforcement they got him. we talked last night and we were all pretty sure they would get whoever was behind this but this remains one of the serious weeks in u.s. history in terms of danger and terrorism. >> well, it is incredibly serious and the law reflects that treating an attempt to put a bomb in place in an effort to hurt someone as seriously as it would treat the situation in many ways as if the bomb went off. the important thing here is we now have a defendant in custody. hopefully he can lead law enforcement to his bombmaking factory. they can secure anything that might present a danger to the public and then proceed with the prosecution. >> clint, the fact that we have got this guy with a long criminal record including attempted -- a bomb thr

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attorney joyce vance and with us at the table, al sharpton, host of politics nation and president ofional action network and corinne jean pierre, and joyce, let me start with you. why would the mueller team allow written responses and written answers. are they trying to button things up or more to view him as a target? what is behind the mueller side? >> it is really interesting that they seem have to have bifurcated the inquiry, that they are insisting on an interview on obstruction, but they have submitted some questions, or at least so we have been told, on this issue of collusion. we have to remember that everything we know about this comes from trump's lawyers. we have no idea if this is the same way that mueller's team views what is going on between the two sides. so it is important to keep that caveat in mind. but this looks like it is just a way of keeping the dialogue going. written answers, they may give some interesting line distinctions like no, i didn't know anything about collusion, but they really won't be worth much more than the paper they are written on in terms of

attorney joyce vance joins us.et, todd purtham, staff -- i want to a california correspondent for something. california correspondent for "the atlantic." aaron, ben, and elise are still here. joyce, let me start with you, take me through what this says about the trump campaign at the highest levels of campaign leadership, what was their mindset about colluding, coordinating or receiving really material benefits in terms of a campaign strategic imper tiativ to take down their opponents in the primary? it would have been ted cruz. in the general election, would have been hillary clinton. from a foreign firm. >> so my answer may be a little bit disappointing, but based on what we know right now, we just don't know enough to call this one. it looks, however, very interesting and we know that bob mueller is spending a lot of time interviewing many employees of side group which would seem to signal there really is some fire here along with the smoke. here's what people need to know. the illegality that we've talked about

much we don't have time for this research into who this doctor for it is and whenever someone at vance's that is by the way did you know something that she had said in the past about this they say don't want to hear about it don't you're right you are a male and you don't understand sexual which puts believe me that that's not the issue but you but if i were to say that you did something on a particular date and four witnesses say that didn't happen you was the accused have no right you hit on this is called the presumption of innocence is called the burden of proof if you're going to say somebody did something if you're going to ruin their life and subject them by the way to losing his current job perhaps as district or as a circuit court of appeals judge for d.c. you better have at least some evidence and do not be offended if the good judge decides i'm going on all of them afraid it's going to influence your this point i mean he's such a lengthy issue and it's a long conversation and i hope we can continue at some point and you hit the nail on the head the now the presumption of innoc