vance, why? presumably because he thinks it will help him win supporters. he did it to win votes.he cruelty is a feature of his candidacy, not a bug. vance is seemingly following the playbook of donald trump, whose response to the death of secretary colin powell a few days ago was to issue a statement attacking powell. following similar attacks that he made against the late john mccain and the late john dingell, after they had died. violations of basic decency, ones we see repeatedly with the republican party's embrace of individuals such as congresswoman marjorie taylor greene from georgia, her reaction in 2018 to a deadly fire in the western united states was to go on facebook and speculate that wealthy jewish americans might be using lasers to cause the fires to make money somehow. a deranged anti-semitic conspiracy theory. nuts. one that was brought up by congresswoman liz cheney when marjorie taylor greene started berating cheney on the house floor this week. now, cheney has been ostracized by her party for standing against trump lies and for wanting to get to the bottom of t

but morgan stanley has eaton vance and e*trade to integrate. it in morgan stanley stock as their market cap today is bigger than yesterday, and still bigger than goldman sachs. that has been the talk of the town for many months now. lisa: we are seeing morgan stanley shares up 1.5% as people parse through the details. i want to go2net interest incomes, following but what bank of america showed, including the first quarter over quarter credit card loan growth going back to before the pandemic. how much are we starting to get hints the consumer is starting to borrow more, that companies are starting to look to banks as lenders again? sonali: it is so important to recognize that the clients of these bangs are all different. for morgan stanley, e*trade give them a bigger, younger audience, but their clients are very wealthy compared to the big consumer bank that might have a much broader set of america. jp morgan said yesterday they were intentional about also opening in a lot of the logan -- in a lot of low income areas. but i'd morgan stanley, wh

joyce vance joining me, msnbc legal analyst and former u.s. attorney.n this. so, i want to clear things up because i think there's some confusion over what they're actually going to be hearing here when it comes to the supreme court. is this going to be over the constitutionality of sb-8? will they be weighing the constitutionality of sb-8 or will they be weighing as to whether or not the doj has the right, really, or the authority to sue the state of texas over sb-8 or is it both? >> it's a subtle distinction, and it may end up ultimately being a distinction without a difference, but there are two lawsuits challenging sb8, the doj lawsuit and the suit by private abortion providers and advocates, and there are two questions that the court has agreed to look at. one is whether or not doj can sue the state of texas and its functionaries and the second question that they'll take up on behalf of both lawsuits is whether or not the texas scheme that uses private vigilante justice purportedly in place of state enforcement is a legitimate statutory scheme. do

judge vance, was the father in law, of our next guest, joyce vance, joyce vance is a former federal prosecutorthe university of alabama school of, law also joining our discussion is matt miller, a spokesperson for attorney general eric holder, both are msnbc contributors. joyce, i just want to begin by saying, that i am sorry for your loss, i will never forget the news of that, day it was so shocking. that that could happen to a federal judge, and tonight, it's, seems as likely as ever, if not more so. >> you know, the distinction between just a very small number of federal judges who were tragically killed in the last century, and the attack this century on a judge's family, is that those stems primarily from people who were upset about their individual cases, or family members cases, what is so troubling about the air that we are in right now, and judge walton's comments, is that this is about people with the political agenda. and those are the sort of risks that judges face, in countries where cartels have influence, or in the philippines. or even in afghanistan were two women judges were k

judge vance was the father in law of our next guest, joyce vance. federal prosecutor and a professor at the university of alabama school of law. also joining our discussion, former spokesperson for erick holder. both are msnbc contributors. joyce, i want to begin by saying i am so sorry for your loss. i will never forget the news of that day. it was so shocking that could happen to a federal judge. and tonight it seems as likely as ever, if not more so. >> you know, the destingds between just the small number of judges tragically killed in the last century and the attack this century on a judge's family is that those stemmed primarily from people who were upset about their individual cases or family members' cases. what's so troubling about the era we're in right now in judge walton's comments is this is about people with a political agenda. and those are the sort of risks that judges face in countries where cartels have influence or the philippines or afghanistan, where two women judges were killed earlier this year. the -- and i'm not saying, for

hi, judy will check in with you later to find out more about what he said, jody vance, my forest fair in canada. having a special session of the u. k. parliament has been held to pay tribute to sir david amos following the conservative and peace. death on friday, members of parliament began with a minute's silence for their colleague, sir david was stabbed to death while meeting members of the public in a church hole in his constituency. east of london. i was got scores coming up after the break, including the well championships for a new sport at the parish 2024 and then peaks. all the details very shortly. ah ah ah whole ah ah ah ah welcome back. i've danny sans compet industry. he's facing a crisis. exports and domestic sales have plummeted since the taliban took over in august. it's brought uncertainty to millions of people who depended on the sector. al jazeera hash m. i have bar reports from mazda is sharif. it's quiet in this carpet market in missouri city. the place was once buzzing with tourists and people eager to buy traditional afghan carpets. but now, shop owners are stru

joyce vance is still here.legal move and then we'll get into sort of the politics and the ramifications. >> sure. so what's being litigated here is still not the substantive merits of whether sb 8 is constitutional. this is still preliminary skirmishing over whether or not the law should be enjoined. the first time it reached the supreme court late at night on their shadow docket, they said we're going to permit this law to stay in effect because texas is using this perplexing situation involving vigilante justice to enforce the law and there's no one that we, the supreme court, have the power to enjoin. that's a silly, disingeneral would you say argument, but doj comes back and this is what's different about this new request. doj says okay, supreme court, we'll spot you the first education, but we have the ability unlike the private plaintiffs in that first case to directly sue the state of texas. texas has no legal immunity like they might have in some other cases. we're asking you to enjoin the state of texa

well, jody vance joins us lies now from a loops, the prime minister has been invited to visit the can loops community a number of times. and i mean, we heard what many people thought of him not going earlier. why is it on there now? much is angela, sir? well, there are numerous reasons and certainly that is an over arcane question here for the prime minister of canada. why not until now? as mentioned, it was maze almost 5 months ago that 215 unmarked graves of children were found here on the site of the hamlet's indian residential school. this is the pow wow arbor where the event is taking place today. certainly the prime minister has been held to account by the chief of work this 1st nation, the regional chief, as well as the national tree, very stern words and a conversation that has been ongoing for a number of hours here. where details of what is needed to move forward with regard to the truth and reconciliation as country and specifically where the 250 and unmarked graves. these unidentified remains here on the lens of the camps, indian residential schools, and how the prime mini

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the aim was to assimilate indigenous children, but many of them were abused. jody vance report. pray tell her. here. rose miller was a student at this residential school in kamloops, british, columbia, a survivor who to his horrible everything about her whole life was horrible. here this apple orchard now called the sacred site, has red stakes representing the remains of $215.00 children found so far revealed by ground penetrating radar. the unmarked graves sparked an awakening, and canada prime minister justin trudeau invited numerous times since the discoveries hadn't come until now. i am here to day to say, i wish i had been here a few weeks ago and i deeply regret it. oh, elders and chiefs from the to come lapse to show ethnic community put pressure on trudeau over what had gone on and these government sanctioned religious run schools . the once oral history told for generations is now confirmed. our babies are very here. oh, our children are little ones. days there, justice ah calls to action for trudeau are varied. but he summed it up like this. let us not forget that what took

they say is the path to recovery. jody vance. al jazeera, vancouver. while cuba is economy has declined by 13 percent since the start of this pandemic. despite that economic minister, 100 jayla says the islands, financial system will prevail, but it still faces crushing us sanctions, which made it harder to acquire the medical equipment to fight curve at 19 and indirectly, man to the tightening of the blockade and dependent i have imposed exceptional conditions on us in 2 years we have lost more than 13 percent of our gross domestic product. many of the problems depend on ourselves on us working better. that is true, but in concrete terms, we also need resources. and the blockade is determined to prevent us from obtaining them. when hazy, providing health care is difficult, even in the best of times, these are times of crisis. gangs. they have blockaded ports, creating a fuel shortage. now it's a life or death situation for hospital patients. for benefit reports from the capital, puerto prince of all the places that are suffering in haiti to day. this

thank you, joyce vance, former u.s.hugely important and consequential issue. >>> that does it for me. thank you for watching. you can catch me on sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. i'll be talking to senator elizabeth warren tomorrow night about a lot of. the i will be back on peacock 7:00 p.m. eastern. tune in for more velshi tomorrow morning at 8:00 p.m. but the "cross connection" starts right now. ♪ >>> the president has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not warranted for the first set of documents from the trump white house that has been provided to us by the national archives. as we said previously, this will be an ongoing process and this is just the first set of documents. we will value questions of privilege on a case-by-case basis. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to the cross connection. we got yet another jam-packed show. overnight, you saw breaking news out of texas where a federal appeals court reinstated the state's total abortion ban. we will have more on that later in the s

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there's those showers across the la vance impacting bade roots with the hiv $26.00 degrees. and we've got our storms coming and going across equitorial countries in africa. pretty heavy pulse there is we see through the western democratic republic of congo for the toward the south. also weather here, but more so eastern areas of south africa and winds will be a factor of for the eastern cape in port elizabeth. we'll see those, wink us up to about 70 kilometers per hour, but really that brain stretching from durban. right to port elizabeth. oh, the weather sponsored by casara. always the latest news. as it breaks, the president is allowed to impose a state of emergency for 15 days, with the option of extending it for another 15 days without congress's approval, we detailed coverage for his rights groups in southeast asia say they confirmed about the arrived in reported cases of working conditions from around the world, government, unsecured agencies up describe the recent answered as plan with the aim of the stabilizing the country. ah ah, welcome back here watching out is th

he will do better, jody vance, with the latest on that meeting and going on in kamloops. so judy, thank you. more than 1300 prisoners in myanmar have been freed, falling the announcement of an amnesty by the country's military rulers. former inmates were re united with family members as they left a prison in young gong, the military governments. those charges against 4000 other prisoners have been suspended. the amnesty covers people who were arrested for taking part in protests, me and mars john to leader also said that other southeast asian nations should share responsibility for failing to quell violence in the country. may not lying as spoke after being excluded from the blocks upcoming meeting. much more on that story and everything that we have been covering there are on our website. of course, there it is. the address al jazeera dot com ah and our reminder of the top stories on al jazeera, colin powell, one of the leading figures of u. s. military and foreign policy for decades has died at the age of $84.00. his family confirmed at powell, who also had a form of bl

the enemy of our peace, a reclaiming of culture, and faith, they say, is the path to recovery. jody vance. al jazeera, vancouver. ah, look at the main stories now and state television and sudan is reporting that 6 sudanese ambassadors including those to the united states. the e. u and china have been removed from that post. i. the military chase are also growing international demands for the military traverse. it's curb. the african union has suspended, sued on from all activities until civilian rule is restored and the well bank has put a hold on any aid state oil company work as in doctor's are among the latest to join strikes and protests inside the.

the institutions. prime minister justin trudeau has called for a formal apology from the pope. jodi vance. reports from vancouver. it's not hard to see the generational trauma. indigenous communities suffer from catholic residential school abuses, to broken families to children lost in the cracks of foster care. there is more than one place to lay blame, but it's the young people who suffer most. they have issues that they faced from their parents and like anger, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, because of all the horrible things that they went through in residential school, in the unresolved issues or pass down to the young people. and they don't know how to face it. have a good, they're both the canadian human rights tribunal as well as federal courts recently ruled, but foster care survivors must be compensated. most will tell you that there is no price tag big enough. how could somebody assess 40000 or 50000 or 800004 being raped and molested and condemned and made little and robbed from family for no good reason. even though prime minister just into those government has appealed court deci

they say, is the path to recovery. jody vance. al jazeera vancouver now indigenous communities and labor unions protested in ecuador for a 2nd day on wednesday. they want the government to free is the price of fuel, which has now risen many times and recent months to re isabel has the story o. b block, the main highway outside kito. residents of san miguel liquor lit on se precedent. jetta, more lasso who has been in office for 4 months, lie to them during the election campaign about fixing but troubled economy and improving their lives. wow. they say his recent decision to raise fuel prices proves it. this woman does not want to show her face. she said nurse and says we're dorians are struggling to survive. i learned, you know, i make $400.00 a month and i cannot make it to the end of the month. the president increases the price of fuel and this affects us in every possible way. it wasn't long before the police and armed forces marched in. the president cleared a state of emergency a week ago to combat racing. crime, and protests

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joyce vance, try to answer the question that jonathan lemire just put out there, which is, what couldminal contempt actually look like? what could that feasibly lead to and what other tools do they have in their legal belt here when it comes to steve bannon and others that choose to defy these subpoenas? >> the real problem here, and jonathan points it out, is that congress doesn't have a tool that's perfectly edged to permit it to get bannon's testimony so what they'll do is try to use the coercive power that they have in order to get as close to that as they can. everyone seems to expect at this point that on tuesday, there will be a vote from congress to refer bannon to the u.s. attorney and the district of columbia for criminal contempt proceedings. and although those charges are in the discretion of the u.s. attorney, it's up to them as to whether or not they wish to bring them and think that they have sufficient evidence and that it's in the national interest to bring those charges. it is a misdemeanor but it's an unusual one, yasmin. it carries a 30-day mandatory minimum senten

joining muse j d vance, ohio senate candidate.if president biden is going to respond with a smear or you are a domestic terrorist or bulging veins charlottesville, this litany of the horrific, what should gop candidates take away from this going forward? >> biden has always been one of the worst demagogues in washington. he always treated his political enemies as people to disparage and destroy and i think republican candidates should take away an understanding how the democrats do politics. it's not about disagree with somebody, they are trying to turn half the country into second-class citizens from the vaccination mandates to attorney general garland going after parents as to mister terrorists, they are trying to make it impossible to live a normal life if you think that when we think iraq the way we act. that is politics in a different way and republicans have to respond to it, wake up to what is going on. >> we play backup of biden going after romney. it doesn't matter who has the are after his or her name, doesn't matter, co

bannon had substantial a vance knowledge of the plans for january 6 and likely had an important role in formulating those plans. mr. bannon was in the war room at the willard on january 6 and appears to have detailed knowledge regarding the president's efforts to sell millions of americans the fraud that the election was stolen. in the words of many who participated in the january 6 attacks, the violence that day was in direct response to president trump's repeated claims from election night through january 6 that he had won the election. the american people are entitled to mr. bannon's firsthand testimony about all of these relevant facts. as the chairman noted, he is refusing to provide it. preserving our constitution and the rule of law is a central purpose of this investigation. the plain fact here is that mr. bannon has no legal right to ignore the committees -- comm ittee's lawful subpoena. his excuse is former president trump wishes to invoke some form of executive privilege for a subset of the relevant topics. president trump's direct communications with mr. bannon regarding

joining me now is julia ainsley and joyce vance. of the ban, women in texas were forced to go to neighboring states and because of the way the law is written in that 48 hours or so between when the federal judge ruled that ban was unconstitutional and then the 5th circuit ruled that it could be reinstated people could still be retro actively sued by the vigilantes. >> yes, they really did everything they could to try to make this challenge proof and to make sure it would stand even during temporary injunctions. so if women were able to get the procedures last week then now those people that provided those procedures, even if it was an uber driver that took them to a clinic, those suits could come up and it could trigger this coming in. the courts have only weighed in on the procedural notion of the law. they have not ruled on the constitutionality. so if someone does sue for an abortion, you could get an argument based on the merits of the law. >> and the move by the doj comes days after the very conservative fifth circuit court of

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her alma mater, in her spare time shoot cohost of the podcast sisters and lip law, along with joyce vance and jill wine-banks. after that lined up, good evening, and welcome to you all. counselor, indeed you're the only lawyer we've got here, we begin with you. what did today uncork in terms of a timeline, you hear congressman raskin trying to settle the base, and say let's talk about eight months nine months ten months, don't believe it. but isn't it true, this could be protracted and bannon knows that? >> oh, i think so brian, i'm sure we could see charges if the doj decides to charge them, within weeks nominates. but if there is to be a trial, and perhaps even an appeal after the conviction, that it is likely to take months. that's why i think this vote to hold bannon in criminal contempt, is much more about punishment than about coursing him to comply. i think they're sending a message to beware of other witnesses who might be inclined to think about if i'm subpoenas, and to protect their own institutional power and the power they have to issue subpoenas. >> robert, if you would, cast

already to have a new i don't want to have a, a lab i made wasn't any idea but, but i mean, i, i, vance, i was going to go buy a full about my daughter ah ah, 25 years ago. and a new era television used in the middle east. begin to part documentary series must be the 25th anniversary of al jazeera, telling the story of the channels logged in, and now it became a recognized global brand. ah, the story of alger, the unique pop a with with news. hello i'm marianne massey in london, a quick look at the main stories now. instead on the doctor's committee, there are saying at least 3 people have been shot dead in protests against the military co. hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets across the country . military has blocked major roads and met demonstrators with tear gas. more than a 100 people have been injured. have been, morgan has more from khartoum to know how many people are injured in protest around the country. to know the turn out of the people were relying on the very few pictures that are coming out from activists. but the number of.

attorney, joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. good reason she is a co-host of the podcast, sisters in law. good evening and welcome to you all. ashley, you get the tough one. the white house is to put it charitably, stalled, the democrats in the senate are to put it charitably paralyzed, so what political impact is there if the departments indeed do have the numbers for this vote against bannon tomorrow? >> well, the key thing still, i think, is the stalled domestic agenda and infrastructure and reconciliation. that's the key thing. but the vote against bannon does help forward the democratic on objectives in ways, but you are seeing what president biden came in to do which was sort of shoring up the democracy and going after the january 6th attacks. it's something that is incredibly important to this white house and it is again, and it does not detract from sort of being the intractable of nearing on a deal on the president's domestic agenda. but it's politically a problem for the republicans in that it reminds them of everythin

you have a senate candidate jd vance tweeting out twitter chief jack dorse ae should let trump back onbecause we supposedly need alec baldwin tweets. jd, man, i promise you if there's one thing we don't know, none of us need in our lives right now is trump tweeting about this situation. when has that ever helped anything? and as you might have guessed his tweet got over 15,000 replies many users kindly suggesting vance delete the tweet itself and actually his entire twitter account. a comedian pointed out how badly his tweet was coming across and asked if that is what he was going for. but i thought this tweet from shannon watts, the founder of moms demand action put the focus where it needs to be. she wrote a woman is dead, a son's mother was stolen from him, a husband's wife is gone. our hearts go out to the family and loved ones of halyna hutchins. >>> coming up, imagine trying to get covid-19 on purpose. talk about a fever dream. my panel is back next to talk about that. dream my panel is back next to talk about that (sfx: video game vehicle noises, horns beeping,) (engines revving

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jodi vance, al jazeera, vancouver. ♪ >> i am with the headlines from al jazeera.nvoys from several western countries have met with the prime minister at his residence. that comes a day after the u.s. secretary of state antony blinken spoke to him. international pressures growing on suydam's military leaders. african union has suspended khartoum from meetings. the united nations says there's a cause for all government officials to be released. >> what's important for the secretary-general and for all of us is to see the immediate and unconditional release of all of the government officials who continue to be unlawfully detained as well as activists, anyone else who has been detained arbitrarily by the authorities, and everyone's human rights, of course, must be respected. the secretary-general has been on the phone, and his advisers have been in touch with relevant people. >> the european court of justice has ordered poland to pay a daily find of -- fine of 101 million dollars in a row over judicial reforms. ecuador's president has called for dialogue as protests i

joining me now, msnbc contributor joyce vance.professor at university of alabama skoofl law. it is one thing to say the attack on january 6th was premedicated. you heard bennie thompson saying everybody knows that, that seems obvious. does that have any legal consequences? >> you know, we're simultaneously investigating january 6th in two very separate systems. one is the political system in congress. the other is the criminal justice system and the justice department. and because those standards are different using the same language can be confusing. i think in the common sense of our understanding, premeditation is clear. this took a great deal of planning to bring this group of people together that ended up inside of congress. but in the legal sense, whether someone could be prosecuted for a specific crime, that's a very different sort of an investigation, always motivated by the context that doj has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in the courtroom. the carryover between those two basically legal systems is not clear y

joining me is joyce vance, a columnist and contributor for msnbc and also joining us on what appearsmartin unfiltered digital show. i should say to our viewers we're not interrupting you for a regular round of golf on a saturday morning. you are there for a benefit so everybody knows. >> yes. yes. let me start with you. i want to understand this, the gutting of the voting rights act in 2013 has been gutted for a weil and this condition sent of pre-clearance, the state with a history of racially motivated gerrymandering would have to seek pre-clearance from the federal government. that doesn't have to happen anymore. so if you're a state of having a history of doing this badly or using race to determine electoral district, you can keep on doing it. >> yeah. every ten years after the census data is released states draw new maps and historically the goal of the maps was to create legislatures that in the words of founding father john adams were miniatures. the legislatures were supposed to be miniatures of the population at large. unfortunately, gerrymandering over time has reared its u

vance. j.d., what do you take from how i started? it doesn't seem like the agenda of the democrats is even listening to what the people in america care about and maybe virginia backs up my belief. >> yeah, you are absolutely right. i think that joe biden is treating his citizens not as fellow citizens in a constitutional republic. is he basically treating them like a colonial occupying power. he has complete disregard for their concerns, disregard for their feelings for their viewpoints. i mean, look at the end of the day, if you are an orphan or a widow of somebody who get killed in combat for our country, you don't get the same payout as if you broke our immigration laws, immigrated illegally across the southern border that joe biden has given you. what signal does that send to northwestern citizens that if you fight and die for this country your life is not as worthwhile as if you broke our laws to illegally cross our border? >> brian: all true. j.d., success leaves clues. and whether youngkin wins or not and looks like he is up o

i wanted to make the observation that back in the 60's, vance packard put out a book called hidden persuaders which was describing how advertisements were working. one of the things in the book that he talked about was they were starting to put on tv these many shots -- mini shots which happen so quickly which was an advertisement to purchase this type of cola. what's not meant to be -- it was not meant to be seen by the conscious mind but a subliminal message that flashed during the program, that your mind could pick up. they outlawed that. it seems to me that one of the problems of facebook, or any other media on the internet is the algorithms they are using to manipulate the viewer, to see the things that they'll you think you want to see. what they think will help them move advertisements. if they keep your attention in the internet that they are watching by showing you stuff that makes you angry because they know that things make you angry is attractive to people, you will continue to watch their spot. it seems what they need to do is outlaw the ability of these people to run these algor

when jamie vance and monday dell are doing is ridiculous.hat herschel walker is doing in georgia. sean parnell in pennsylvania also has committed sexual assaults and eric greitens to go along with this conspiracy mongering. take it down to the whole party. in you are in the city council on the school board and you are a normal republican who cares about tax cuts or whatever, are you going to stick around when you have a crazy mob yelling at you about the mask rules you have? from the senate to the city council this turnover is happening and you are getting the performative -- or the marjorie taylor greene types and that's a distinct without a difference. >> yeah, by the way, i don't know about parnell and the accusations there. i just want to put myself on the record as not knowing what the accusations are. i know there are accusations against eric greitens. let me just ask you this, michelle. to tim's point, what you are seeing when you take a step back aside from the individual moments, two down, eight to go trump sell bra tore statement,

joining me now is michelle goldberg, columnist for the "new york times" and joyce vance.ng to start with you. the appeal is in. can you walk us through what the appeal in theory could be based on and how successful you think that appeal might be given how conservative the fifth circuit is where they are taking this appeal? >> so there are a lot of moving parts in that question, joy, but essentially the state of texas has gone to the fifth circuit court of appeals and they'll ask a three-judge panel in that court to rule a different way. they'll ask that court to go ahead and put the statute back in operation to remove judge pittman's stay. either they'll win or they'll lose there. it's worth noting that only the supreme court can overrule roe versus wade, excuse me, and the fifth circuit panel is obligated to follow roe versus wade, which suggests that they should keep judge pittman's stay in place if they follow the law, but either way we're likely to end back up in front of the supreme court where this case could easily be joined with the mississippi case that the court

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joyce vance joins us. former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama law school. also, pulitzer prize-winning reporter who dominates covering the justice department for "the new york times." and all-time favorite jarrett -- garrett haake, senior capitol hill reporter, here with me. >> this is going to be a process. the house will vote hopefully later this week. they'll find bannon in criminal contempt. then it goes to the justice department, who still have to decide whether this is the kind of thing they want to pursue criminally. democrats in the house are arguing that they have to do this not just for their investigation, but to prove that congressional subpoenas even mean anything. listen to this that adam schiff told me last night. >> i think it is enormously important, and i view this as an early test of our democracy, whether it is recovering. an early test of whether in the new administration no one will be above the law. i can tell you that if you or i or anyone else refused to show up when they were subpoenaed, they would be arrested. it should be no diff

joining me now is joyce vance, former u.s.at the university of alabama school of law. welcome, joyce. are you surprised by the arbitrator's decision, and what do you think it means for other former trump aides who signed similar ndas? >> this is not a particularly surprising decision. the nondisclosure agreement in this case was very broad, and as the arbitrator noted, ultimately it was far too broad and too vague to be enforceable. the interesting question that you flag, alex, is what does this mean for other people who entered into nondisclosure agreements with the former president? this is a decision rendered by an arbitrator. under the terms of the nda, it went to private arbitration as opposed to into the court system for a decision. so, this is an arbitrator who concluded the president could not enforce the nondisclosure agreement in this case. that will not be binding in future cases, but it will be highly persuasive. this is a major loss in trump world. >> and it's something that certainly donald trump's niece, mary tr

with me justice corespondent and joyce vance and msnbc legal analyst.om the january 6th committee. here he is. >> what are the chances that you'll get this opportunity to question steve bannon do you think? >> i think the chances are actually very good and the fact that if the justice department prosecutes steve bannon, other witnesses will see they'll face real consequences including jail time and potentially stiff fines. that is a way of getting people's attention. >> joyce vance, how many different ways can steve bannon be told your executive privilege claim is denied. you don't get to claim it. how is it possible he and donald trump seem not to understand that? >> i think the problem is that they do understand it, joy, but they've learned over the years that playing a delay game with the courts serves their purposes when they're trying to avoid doing something here. that's why congressmen schiff is dead on the money here and why it will be so important if the committee makes a request to the justice department to bring a criminal contempt proceeding

so we segue from that to the 49ers quarterback trey vance after walk-through practice on the stanfordine to watch the cardinals in the 1970 throwback uniforms, who take on third-ranked oregon. look at this. a first quarter touchdown strike, tanner mckee to bryson jermaine. they led 10-0, and then in the third quarter, sanders crashed in. opening the playbook, stanford had a lead, but it disappeared to an oregon lead. five mexicans left in the game and this happened. oregon called a defensive holding penalty on this play. stanford got another shot, and this time elijah higgins hauled in the past to tie the game, and it went into overtime. that is when tanner mckee with step up and hit john humphreys for the possible win. look at this. the third touchdown of the game, did it send it? well, they had to sweep through this one, as anthony brown, the quarterback for the oregon ducks, they were inside the 25, and he tried to make it happen, but no, no, no, you win for stanford. knocking on number three oregon , with a final of 31-24. cal doing business with washington state right now. san jo

attorney joyce vance. jon, is he seeing this executive privilege as a way to keep stalling things?i think there are a few things at play here. first of all, let's remember that when president trump was in office and the democrats took control of the house, the administration stonewalled every attempt to investigate. the motto here was just say no, the trump official would not cooperate with subpoenas and other congressional inquiries. bannon now, who had fallen out of grace with the president and is now back in, is certainly the one carrying trump's message of electoral fraud, suggesting that he would be returned to office some day. and he is not going to cooperate. he could be punished here. there are fines, essentially even a year in jail. but even if that were to happen to him, and it's unclear that this committee will go down that road, but they still wouldn't necessarily get his testimony. there's no way to force him to actually testify. but he is setting a tone here. other officials, former chief of staff mark meadows, are cooperating at least to a degree with investigators,

attorney joyce vance and here in the studio, news justice correspondent pete williams. for governor cuomo? we understand the albany sheriff will have a news conference or appearance this afternoon. what could he be facing, if that's down the road? >> this is an unusual interpretation, andrea, because everyone seems surprised the charges have been filed. the prosecutor, county district attorney was caught off guard, even the sheriff's office were surprised to see them become public so quickly, although they filed them and the victim, too, was caught off guard, although her attorney said she would continue to be a cooperative victim. although cuomo has an order to appear in court on the 17th to be arraigned, when the charges against him are formally read to him in court, and he enters a plea, it's not really clear at this point how this case will move forward. >> and, pete, let's talk abe the supreme court and texas abortion law. these are constitutional arguments, procedural arguments on monday, not the substance of it? >> the monday cases are not about abortion. it's re