vance without a trial yesterday in support of the former president.the mix in some of these lists as a potential vp from exeter, at the beer today. i don't know if you're the tease before we went to the break but he democratic strategists the, you know, why are there all their -- there defending his affair with a porn star? in the what you are doing. >> not at all, martha. i was there to support your friend from the political obligations of the trial and will certainly get to that. i think this is a very depressing way to spend 5-6 weeks of your life when you know you are innocent and on from now that he is and so recognizing that sometimes it's a little bit lonely to set up there by yourself, i offered to come in and maybe, you know, just be a friendly face in the courtroom and that's all i wanted to do and that's what i think you see so many people coming and showing their support for the president because he actually like what he stands for, i think that this trial is pathetic and they want to show some support to a friend and i think there is a go

vance vance. >> thank you for being here on just what we're seeing on college campuses. you've been very outspoken about the need for free speech on college campuses. >> but i wonder where you believe the line is in defending free speech and denouncing hate speech yeah. katelyn, the width, right? >> think about it. is that you have a right to free speech. people allowed to speak. but you don't have a right to turn college campuses in the garbage dumps. you don't have a right to prevent other students from ban in class and you don't have the right to commit violence. and so i think it's pretty straightforward. we're never going to strike that balance perfectly, but there's clearly, i think an effort in this country to make sure that we have a first amendment right to speech and at the same time we make sure that students can go to school without without attacks and sorry, there's a weird echo okay. >> maybe it's mixed minus. we'll see if the control room can stop that because i know how crazy it is when you can hear yourself. but but on that in your home state of ohio, i

i guess jd vance didn't see the gallows that were erected on capitol hill. was skeptical the rioters were targeting vice president pence at all, so maybe he didn't catch this part either. >> if pence came we're going to drag him through the streets. you [ bleep ] politicians are going to get dragged through the streets. [ chanting "hang mike pence" ] >> for the record, secret service agents rushed vice president pence to a secure location on january 6th avoiding a run-in with rioters by just 40 feet. now, jd vance is the latest republican to try and rewrite what happened on january 6th, but he is far from the only one. after repeatedly insisting that the participate wants that day were not lawless rioters but political activists being held hostage by the deep state, this week donald trump announced an interview with "time" magazine he would absolutely consider pardoning all the january 6th federal convicts. meanwhile, trump is still repeating the big lie that brought those people out to the capitol in the first place. at rallies yesterday in wisconsin and mi

vance was in new york monday with mr. trump as he was attending his hush money case outside of that. senator vance made several comments to the press. >> michael cohen is the prosecution's star witness. this guy is a convicted felon who admitted in his testimony that he secretly recorded his former employer, that he only did it once, and this was supposed to help donald trump. does any sensible person believe anything michael cohen says? i don't think they should. i think his testimony will hurt any reasonable juror and hopefully we have a few of those . i want to say two other things. the things the president is prevented from saying is that every single person involved in this prosecution is practically a democratic political operative. the judge, his daughter is making millions of dollars running against donald trump, raising money for donald trump's political opponent. the number three person in bidens department of justice left to become a local prosecutor to go after donald trump. then there is alvin bragg, a soros

ed: the vance spencer call is that etherium is apple is digital oil.ppens of the approvals come as expected? we talk often in our coverage, the etherium blockchain is most use globally. what is the crystal ball into the future if approvals happen in the cadence you have set out? vance: we manage 1.8 billion we are a venture firm but we play in liquid markets. one of the few firms who have bought crypto on open market exchanges. that moves the price pretty meaningfully. etherium is a smaller, more reflexive asset. that will make a significant impact in the market. you think back to 2020, michael sailor was on the scene and we were buying digital gold. sure enough, the bitcoin went up two times and three months. with this catalyst in the set up of relative lack of supply in the narrative that these are not just that rocks but things we actually build with as technology, that is a big tail wind. this is a surprising decision but it is baked into the cake for us. ed: you use the word political, it's an election year we have a presidential election in this

whether it is possible for donald trump to trust jd vance, given how much jd vance has done a 180 inal views on donald trump, let's see. i wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being a white man with lots of money. >>> still ahead, we'll continue to follow day two of michael cohen's testimony at donald trump's hush money trial. any moment now, cohen will leave his apartment and make his way to the manhattan courthouse. >>> plus, congressman dan goldman of new york joins us live in studio as republicans prepare contempt charges against attorney general merrick garland. >>> "morning joe" is coming right back. >>> we are going to evict this man, the worst president by far. jimmy connors is -- jimmy connors is good. he's also happy. jimmy is a very happy man, both of them. you know what? they want him out. >> oh, my god. he just forgot the name of a president. listen, jimmy connors is great. >> southpaw, yeah. >> number one singles player from '74 to '77. >> what a run, yeah. >> the most single titles ever won. the most single matches ever won. i don't know if people knew this about jimmy

we have one stay back and pass love jd vance what's going on today. persuading the respected front of the free world will be. politics is no place in this this is all politics. great legal analyst none of this is a leak there is nothing illegal. they are person who once it is he is conflicted. check that out. everyone is saying there is no crime. bread of evidence i participated in a bank records hiding a campaign estate the doing great the cap numeral three however four weeks the numbers just came out of the "new york times" we discussed. let me put this as a singly as possible there is no crime state or federal with which to link donald trump or anyone else this is a legal basis there is none. there is no crime. again jd vance these american voters who are watching this you speak up against this sham prosecution and save the american people. the federal law under federal law that is why we do have authority for obsolete no action they take no action against me. only when they did ta braggs almost eight years ago my presidential campaign he said we g

vance, what's going on -- threat to democracy and we cannot have a country where we get to prosecutor political opponents instead of persuading voters. ag trance -- highly respected from iowa, let the american people decide who -- politics actually has no place in this courtroom. this is all politics. and mccarthy, great legal analyst, said none of this is a legal. there's nothing illegal. is all politics, there's nothing illegal. a lot of people say that. were all saying that. the only person who won't say it is a judge because it's a rig deal. is conflicted. but everybody is saying there is no crime. up at the right now -- not a single trip of evidence and president in the trial of other -- nonevent. there's been absolutely nothing. le casimir doing great, you know why they're doing great? -- they've got me here for three and half to four weeks intercompany but we still have the best poll numbers and -- let me put this slightly as possible. there's no crime, state or federal, which was -- this is a case looking for a legal basis. there is none. there is no crime. again j.d. vance sa

then senator jd vance waiting in the wings to talk about all this. now let's go straight to jonathan turley, gw law professor, our favorite constitutional scholar and a fox news contributor. jonathan, what are you thinking here? closing arguments, who is being treated well, who is not being treated well? give us a hint. >> well, the defense continues to struggle with this judge who is ruling largely with the prosecution. that's continuing in this hearing dealing with the instructions in the case. that's a very important stage in this trial. how he instructs the jury own the law could well dictate the outcome in this case. the government is trying very hard to adopt lower standards for the jury, including arguing that they don't have to prove a willful intent on all of the elements before the jury, to establish a crime. that would make it much more likely they could convict. i was just in the courtroom with former president trump. he is taking a very active role in this. he is passing notes to his attorneys. he is being obviously very attentive as the

larry: senator vance, you are terrific. if the vice presidential nomination were offered to you by mr. trump would you take it. >> it very important to take our country to a different direct, i'll be interested in helping however i can. larry: thank you so much jd vance appreciate it. >> take care. larry: coming up bidenomics 2.0, be afraid, very afraid. we have steve moore and douglas egan. anyway, will tell us why and how we can make it bette do you want to close out? should i? normally i'd hold. but... taking the gains is smart here, right? feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app. when you've got a decision to make... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office... [ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg's moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don's paying so much for at&t, he's been waiting to update his equipment! there's a smarter way to save. comc

vance. good to have you here. >> good morning. >> good morning to you. so you were at mar-a-lago recently. you were in new york at the manhattan courtroom. you were in ohio alongside donald trump at a fund-raiser. i know you keep getting asked whether or not you're going to be vice president or not. you said you haven't spoken to him about it. >> sure. >> we're also looking at a pretty tight race in the senate. do you think you're more helpful to him in the senate or the white house? >> well, i'll let him make that decision. what i've said is i'm happy to be an advocate for the agenda in the united states senate. that's the best way to help the people of ohio. i'm interested in helping in other ways if that's what matters. we have to re-elect donald trump as president. the contrast is so extraordinary between higher inflation at home and war overseas, that's the biden record, and the trump record of peace at home and prosperity. that is an incredible thing to run on. and importantly, it's an incredible thing to deliver for our country. i think we need to

vance, a possible running mate and one of the republicans who showed up in new york where he faces chargescords to pay off an adult film star. and we'll hear from gary peters who is in charge of defending the democrats slim majority. >>> and what do we need to know about foreign interference and the dangers of a.i. we'll get the latest from chris krebs. >>> and then russia's advance on ukraine's second large efrt city of kharkiv marks one of moscow's biggest gains to date. oksana markarova will join us with the latest. >>> finally, robert gates once led the cia and the defense department. we'll get his thoughts on the state of u.s. national security and the 2024 election and more. it is all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >>> good morning and welcome to "face the nation." with election day less than six months away, president biden is navigating a host of challenges at home and abroad. his national security adviser is in israel today for talks with embattled prime minister netanyahu as the war in gaza enters the 8th month. netanyahu is facing a ultimatum from benny gans who is threaten

and for that reason, and it's not a fascist country. >> jd vance it's though that hillbilly elegy made him famous for what do you notice when he caught me? >> it is amazing to see the evolution of somebody like jd vance and many others as they are now focused on one thing and one thing only, which is remaining in the good graces of trump and possibly becoming a vp. >> jd vance is running for vice president and you saw it right here. he wouldn't allow an inch a scintilla of daylight between what he was going to say to woolf and what donald trump said short time ago. i mean, donald trump called it a fascist country. jd vance, even if he disagreed with and i have to say he looked uncomfortable wolff was press conference and may have been that he doesn't like the idea of trump calling in a fascist country, but he can't come, bring himself to say it on tv because he knows he believes it will hurt his chances. he said some things that were factually incorrect there. he said president biden is throwing his political opponents june pretty much nothing to do with this case. it's not a federal c

also in the same breath he refers to jd vance, a republican as his friend _ refers to jd vance, a republicanend as well. so he's going over there. mr lammy has also been very very— over there. mr lammy has also been very very clear about he said mr trump— very very clear about he said mr trump is— very very clear about he said mr trump is "misunderstood" when it comes— trump is "misunderstood" when it comes to — trump is "misunderstood" when it comes to his europe policy. so compared _ comes to his europe policy. so compared to, how can i put it, slightly— compared to, how can i put it, slightly more robust descriptions of mr trump— slightly more robust descriptions of mr trump and slightly more robust descriptions of mrtrump and what slightly more robust descriptions of mr trump and what he did in recent years. _ mr trump and what he did in recent years, that is now being tempered to a, well— years, that is now being tempered to a, well has _ years, that is now being tempered to a, well has a — years, that is now being tempered to a, well he's a little bit misunderstood, he's not saying he'

vance was on the phone the entire time., to his credit, looking straight ahead, taking it all in. >> j.d. vance, there was no reason for him to come -- >> well, lawrence, he tweeted that it's not fair to accuse donald trump of falling asleep and not being with it. as he says, he's 39 years old and he was almost falling asleep. >> there you go. they're there to corroborate -- to help with the sleep defense. i guess that's where the vice presidential auditioning begins, with you come in and please help with the sleep defense? >>> lawrence o'donnell, thank you. for more of your observations just tune in to "the last word" time. >>> let me get a big picture, if i can, lisa. this was so highly anticipating michael cohen. so far, one of the people that came out early described his testimony at times even boring, but what is your sense of it? and what is your sense of what is to come? >>> he has to keep frequently asking him to give her more. this is a michael cohen who is not only subdued and exceedingly place. he is really tryin

larry: senator vance, you are terrific. if the vice presidential nomination were offered to you by mr. trump would you take it. >> it very important to take our country to a different direct, i'll be interested in helping however i can. larry: thank you so much jd vance appreciate it. >> take care. larry: coming up bidenomics 2.0, be afraid, very afraid. we have steve moore and douglas egan. anyway, will tell us why and how we can make it better i'm kudlow we'll be right back. bru new parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. a new toothpaste from e gu do you want to close out? should i? normally i'd hold. but... taking the gains is smart here, right? feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app. when you've got a decision to make... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. [music playing] tiffany: my daughter is mila. she is 19 months old. she is a little ray of sunshine. one of the happiest babies you'll pr

you think jd vance would get anybody to show up? absolutely not. of bob menendez, the senator, or the trial of joe biden's son hunter, both of which are going to happen in the next few weeks and we're not going to see any of this. that tells you all the need to know about the difference in the parties. >> fairly put. brian and chai, thank you so much for walking us through this different lane as we talk about the trial today. >> later on tonight, what the testimony might reveal about trump's motive and why that could help deal with reasonable doubt if the jury feels his motive has been proven. >> and email. speaking in code. witnesses discussing something that trump has benefitted from for a long time. a scheming guilty but effective style of avoiding evident. coming up, we have a manhattan d.a. veteran on the bragg strategy. >> less than two weeks before the presidential election, michael cohen wired $130,000 to stormy daniels' lawyer. that payment was to hide damaging information from the voting public. the scheme violated new york election law.

we are joined by joyce vance and professor jason johnson, both analysts for us. i went through some of what we got out of this opening weekend i think it is fair to say if you are on the jury it feels like the d.a. is up, in the lead. i was careful to say it doesn't mean we know the outcome. what do you think they achieved in this first weekend what do you think they have to worry about? >> it is a great question. if you are the prosecution and you are not up after your first witness, you are in big trouble. the prosecution really did start off with an unexpected bang. no one knew what to expect out of david pecker. we learned he had been cooperating with prosecutors and brought trump straight into the essential conspiracy, the election fraud conspiracy, which is necessary to turn the misdemeanor that is charged here into a felony. important testimony. he stood up well on testimony and cross-examination. they did not seem to come after him with a lot. they tried to pick away at his credibility, question the key

where would you put vance on that spectrum? >> he was pretty clear.ou pretty succinct, which i think you want. he said you could put an a chiral. i'm pretty easily what can be said for all of them. and look, i think at the end of the day you're not going to get for someone wants to be in the vp shortlist. just like honestly, any other issue you're not going to get someone to go out there and say something diametrically. diametrically opposed to what trump is saying on this, right? there is in that spectrum, there's kind of almost guardrails that you towards and i think what you saw vance was certainly on one side of that. i was surprised sense to sink and how kinda clear he was at least voted late when it went on data show. >> well, of course he trump appeared with doug burgum over the weekend rally, which seems to suggest burger maybe arising off the list. it's certainly it does. and look, we have to remember that donald trump likes to play with us, play with everybody. this is something that he likes. the kind of who will it be, who won't be but he

now joyce vance is back.e of what you heard from bill. >> if the prosecution is not a little bit unhappy with their witness being cross-examined then the defense lawyers are not doing their job. this is their opportunity to go at the witness and ask the when did you beat your wife style question. theoretically, they should be scoring some points. and bill did a great job of making the case for this as effective cross-examination but i don't agree. i saw nothing here that did lasting damage to michael cohen who i think has held up far better than expected. >> what do you think blanche was doing with questions he knew almost certainly would face objection? his opening question was mr. cohen, you called me a little blank. expletive. we don't do that on the news but the jury heard it and it was overruled. >> there was a side bar after that question. we don't know for certain what happened because i haven't seen the transcript but i suspect the judge was not happy with todd for making it person off the bat. and it

vance.ch in support of trump outside that courthouse where trump is. >> so let me just say a few things, guys. i will wait for you, sorry. that works. guys, so let me just make a few observations and i'll kick it over to cindra. i'll wait. >> harris: the congressman from ohio is still getting set up. trying to get a microphone on him. we knew there would be more lawmakers because senator rick scott of the great state of florida last week, when he spoke in support of trump outside the courthouse, said that he had been watching this trial. they do have a holding area. it is unclear where they are watching from. you saw to the side representative malliotakis as well. so we know there are lawmakers who are going to not only come to the former president's defense, but also comment on this trial. surrogates, if you will, for that purpose because of the intense gag order that has been put on trump. we understand that the names on the list are a couple of attorneys general from alabama, iowa, senato

you know, jd vance willing to flip flop, right? first, he was anti-trump. now all of a sudden he's in trump's camp. it's about power. it's about proximity to power. and i think that this is a test. this is the loyalty tests to see who's willing link to do whatever it takes to speak in trump's favor. >> and of course, one of the things trump was really excited about today, we're at the polls a big new york times-siena poll showing these leading and a lot of battleground states. and that is a snapshot of the race as it is right now. essentially taken all together. this is an either a tight race or trump is slightly ahead and that is happening in spite of all of this, this, legal legal imbroglios that he's a part of well, i think there's two things that are going on. the first is that it tells us that the biden administration is having some real struggles with key demographics that make up the alliance or the coalitions that are necessary to win for the biden administration to win reelection but the other thing is that there is a trial that is going on in the

vance, stefanic who replaced cheney. and governor nome, not sure if she's still in the running. >> i think donald trump is using a slightly different calculus than a traditional candidate would. usually the first question you ask is is this person capable of serving as president if something were to happen to me? i don't know if that's how donald trump thinks. perhaps he should given his age. he is probably much more thinking about will this person be absolutely loyal to me unendingly? i think he saw with mike pence he had that for a while, but didn't at the end. and that is first and foremost on his mind. and then secondly, he's probably looking for somebody who's going to do no harm. that is the consistent thing you're always looking for. that's where maybe a nome is putting herself in trouble. you want to look for somebody who has sound judgment and is not going to undermine your candidacy. now, donald trump has no real incentive for announcing anybody anytime soon. all of these people are so desperate to be his nomin

walked in and out of that prosecutor's office first and the first set of prosecutors i first called cy vanceasked him to come up to otis field federal satellite penitentiary, he was sent to interview them for the first time, secretly in prison and that was in 2019. so count the years, how many sessions we've had with the prosecutors. first piecing together a financial fraud case, ultimately that went to the york attorney general. can which 100 or more and sometimes hours and hours at an end. so if i counted them up over five years, at least 100 or more you probably another j. mean, i was there so it was painful i don't he just write questions for you one, you said earlier to wolf blitzer that every word of michael cohen's testimony will be corroborated, but is there a way to corroborate what he testified to today? one of the biggest moments there at the end where he said that trump did approve the agreement that that he and ellis on weisselberg, ed, come to of how he would be repaid well, i think we had missed mcconney, hey verify that he was aware of the true up of those numbers. >> that is

you had two senators in the courtroom today, jd vance and tommy tuberville.ious of trump's sons at various points and what are they doing? they are essentially sucking up to dad, sucking up to the boss, essentially trying to amplify, trying to say he's been gagged so we're going to make his points for him and i think it's all very telling. the question i have is how much are americans really paying attention to this at this point as a political spectacle or not? do they think they already know whether they're for donald trump or against donald trump? i just don't know if it's breaking through. >> a motley maga crew has been at his side and i anticipate that there will be more to come, to susan's point. let's go back in court. michael cohen is a guy who obviously was on the inside of the trump organization and today we heard the name of another insider as far as the trump organization is concerned but someone who wasn't there. alan weisselberg. both cohen and weisselberg at some point have done jail time because of donald trump. what do you make of the prosecu

as far as abortion vance, he will blame trump but trump is not set is for national abortion vance soe doesn't have a line of attack because trump the site down to the states and the supreme court ruled. the third part is to give us because obamacare is costing a fortune, medicare and social security are going bankrupt by 2035 and no one is doing anything. those are not strong plans of attack not to mention, i almost forgot to say 100,000 illegal guns put on obamacare hunter biden. >> also it is hard not to look at this through the lens of the polls kevin choate when you look at the battleground states and how troubling it is for the biden camp. a poster tweeted this, if biden is still growing in august, he needs to consider setting aside, it's not a great situation either way but you have to do due diligence on the question. it's an important election obviously shouldn't be taboo to talk about. we are talking about democrats here, they don't like to talk about it. >> you hear them on the podcast, they are panicking feeling dark about their prospects and see the plan the democrats to

joining me now, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney.know about what the prosecution and defense will likely include in their closing arguments? >> i think you've done a great job of setting out the parameters. the prosecution, when they close, will be all over the burden of proof. they will have to explain to the jury and give them good arguments for why they have proven trumps guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. that is the important part, and as you say, for a defense lawyer, the strategy is always to inject that reasonable doubt into the governments evidence so we will hear them focus very likely on michael cohen and his credibility issues, but they will also make other arguments about why the prosecution's evidence does not stack up in the way it needs to for your conviction. >> the judge's instructions to the jury ahead of their deliberations. this, i am keyed in on. what goes in to them and why are they so important how the jury considers its verdict in each case? >> right. so, it is the judges job as judge merchan told the lawyers l

vance these names that have popped up. doug burgum.at the same time when i talk to people close to trump, they note that his real sole focus right now is the trial. and so you shouldn't expect to hear who he's going to pick until later this summer, probably about a month before the rnc convention is when i'm hearing. he's going to announce it's hundred time one it was standard timeline, but at the same time, as you said is very clear. we're starting to see more and more how all of these lawmakers are clearly quietly trying to position themselves to be serious. >> yeah. well, i mean, look, it's made this base second right. june, july, the conventions in july, these vets when they're done properly, take a lot of time, i guess it's a question to me. it's like how much does strunk going to really focus on that really just instead go with his gut here. but you, andrew, what do you hear in and around from the camps of the various mu j.d. vance is one, for example, who's kind of come up to the top for this conversation? yeah. how does this pl

joyce vance, as promised, is back with us. nexus to the new york case and separately, even if he wasn't involved anymore for trump, this is another person in the elector plot that now is facing a potential trial and potential conviction. your thoughts? >> they might as well mark that tape that you played government exhibit 1 and send it to prosecutors in arizona, because that is in essence boris epshteyn captured on video, talking about the fake elector scheme he has now charged in in arizona and when that is added on to some of the other evidence we have heard about that is publicly known, right? we don't know what prosecutors might have that we are unaware of. emails trying to convince officials in arizona that they should come on board with this plan to put in a fake slate of electors to try to tie up the certification of the electoral college vote. that makes arizona's case looks solid. really interesting that boris epshteyn is in court with donald trump in new york. not quite sure what we can make of that. he was not ther

attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance.ce, this is the appeals court now reviewing the judge's decision to let willis stay on the case. what does this really mean? what's the process going to be now? >> right, so this is what's called an interlocutory appeal, ana, an appeal that takes place before trail, and the court of appeals wasn't obligated to hear this appeal, the decision this morning is that they will, in fact, take the case. it's taken them weeks to make the decision simply to hear the case. that means we're more likely and for months before they decide whether the trial judge got it right when he said fani willis could stay on the case. if that decision happens months out, whichever party loses is likely to take an appeal to georgia's supreme court and that effectively means that this trial will not take place before the election. >> joyce, nathan wade, the person who was a special prosecutor she had brought on who she had this relationship with, he just gave an interview to abc news over the weekend, and i want t

vance.e usually like to try to look ahead a little bit, but just give us your sense of how this last week went for the former president. did he pick up the advantage or is it advantage prosecution if in this new york case? >> sure. sure. so here's the thing, when you look at the rally and you look at what's going on in the courtroom, remember when john edwards used to say there's two americas? i really think a that's more evident now than it has been before. in the courtroom and if you listen to the mainstream press, boy, donald trump had a rough week. but when the american people are viewing this, they're looking at this as a sham election, a very political prosecution on alvin bragg's part and the judge who maybe should have recused himself as well too. so while there are murky facts going on in the courtroom, the fact of the matter is that there's a lot of people that are viewing this thing as completely a pretty -- political sham. and that's playing in donald trump's favor. so i think th

senator vance from ohio is recognized. sen. vance: thank you, mr. chairman, thanks to you and the ranking member. i think it's important to sort of note that this entire conversation about late fees, overdraft fees and so forth takes place in the context of extraordinarily high interest rates. i'm 39 years old. pretty much the worst interest rate environment since i was a toddler. i don't remember anything about interest rates when i was 3 years old. i think we have to be careful here about this particular proposal or at the very least appreciate some of its implications and, ms. madry, i wanted to direct this first question to you. you run a small bank and i appreciate you being here. or i should say a small credit union, right? ms. madry: right. sen. vance: maybe you can sort of explain how, especially in the context of higher interest rates, what this particular proposal would mean for your ability to offer debt and credit services to people, especially low income people. ms. madry: so in the context of my credit union, first off, we're capped at

senator advance from ohio is -- vance from ohio is recognized. sen. vance: thank you, mr. chairman, thanks to you and the ranking member. i think it's important to sort of note that this entire conversation about late fees, overdraft fees and so forth takes place in the context of extraordinarily high interest rates. i'm 39 years old. pretty much the worst interest rate environment since i was a toddler. i don't remember anything about interest rates when i was 3 years old. i think we have to be careful here about this particular proposal or at the very least appreciate some of its implications and, ms. madry, i wanted to direct this first question to you. you run a small bank and i appreciate you being here. or i should say a small credit union, right? ms. madry: right. sen. vance: maybe you can sort of explain how, especially in the context of higher interest rates, what this particular proposal would mean for your ability to offer debt and credit services to people, especially low income people. ms. madry: so in the context of my credit union, first off, we're capped at

this, in fact, is something jd vance that outside the court. timing of it was that the speech was given maybe an hour before trump was going through this. he was going through making notations. i think probably trying to figure out what kinds of things he might want to put on truth social later, perhaps. i don't know. the point is that everything that is happening in that courtroom is very coordinated. all the messaging is very coordinated. almost like a political convention in which convention speeches happen, but no one says anything on the convention stage that the nominee doesn't want them to say. i think they are all explicating saying, talking points. there are things that donald trump would like to be saying if he didn't feel confined by this gag order. >> i am struck by the fact that some of those things are about the judge and about the judges family and those are strictly within the parameters of his gag order. help me understand as a nonlawyer how this then does not violate the gag order. the court can suppose a situation like this w

so you suddenly saw jd vance turn you saw mike johnson, then you saw the maga extremists suddenly think, oh, this this is a bandwagon we should hop on and the courtroom itself or the courthouse has become this new staging ground. and i think people underestimated trump's feral genius. but turning these moments into a campaign moment. >> and there's been a bit of a divide among the republicans about those people who are been rushing up to the new york courthouse to defend the former president mitt romney, made some breed pleaded remarks about this and got some pushback from jd vance really very difficult to watch. why is it difficult to watch well there's a level of dignity and decorum that you vector people who are running for the highest station in the land and going out and prostrating themselves in front of the public to try it. >> and apparently curry favor with the person who's are nominee is a little embarrassing myths that on sort of three sides of every issue and public policy in this country, the last 20 years, i just i think that he should stick to being a legislator and try t

vance, he's not up for re-election this year.ommy tuberville, he does a lot of crazy things, but he's alabama. trump is quite popular there, right? so for them, it might be a win among their constituents. but it also tells you that, that they don't think that standing by and attending the criminal trial of a former president, who by the way is there because of his role in paying hush money to a former adult film star, that that's not going to hurt them politically, that it won't result in a primary race per their assessment, that it only helps them among the base. that tells you so much about kind of where the republican party and the base of the republican party is. the other thing -- and you've talked about this a lot as well over the course of time on your show -- is it also tells you that these people are saying, i know that you had enablers in 2020. i'm raising my hand. i'm happy to be there and enable you in 2024 should you want to question the outcome of the election, whatever the outcome -- you know, if you lose the elect

. >> it's mark levin again, jd vance do the american voters, who are watching this? one opportunity you get to speak up against his sham prosecution and just say the american people should elect the president not use corrupt d&c prosecutors two help them get elected, which is exactly what they view in any regard the good break has no authority to enforce federal law. >> the nda payments were you're paying expenditures under federal law that's why the epc and doj, which do have exclusive authority to enforce federal law absolutely no action against trump. they took no action against me. they look they said it's time the only went and did the shores back da brad coe turned down the case by the way he turned down the case and it couldn't have been brought six years ago, seven years ago, almost eight years ago. >> they bring it right in the middle of my presidential campaign break. >> he said we had a case, you know, if you go back take a look at your earlier records when he came into office, he turned it down and he was angry because of what took place when he saw that

vance personify? right. i hope nothing in this book is j.d. vance personified. okay, there's an opinion. i'm sorry. that's unkind. i michael, it's a it's a great, complicated story. and in the book there, michael's a recurring character. but there are two chapters devoted specifically to him and it's not that i want to. it's i'm asking to read the book. i want to give a short answer to a complicated figure like michael. but there are reasons michael and his wife and i come have come to think the way they think can and if you if you do read the book and you're not judging michael but you're trying to understand him just i hope you'll try to understand anyone in the. i think i think a line will bring you to an understanding of how he views the world and and and what his his are and there are legitimate. i want to challenge your idea david about of people stepping up of journalists in order aspect of for who are important to us but what is going to motivate. patriotism what kind of motivate the next level. the russian patriot what's going to motivate the people who

several lawmakers, including vance.lright, ending trump's trial in new york to show their support. >> alright, weather time here as we get a live look outside on this monday night. the top of mount tam there. we talked about how it's a bit of haze in the skies. but overall, very nice day in the bay. >> how long is this going to last? yeah, you know, we should last forever, right? it's very, very nice out around the bay. i think we've got another day of some really nice weather. then we'll start to see the changes begin to kick in. but what a nice way to start out the workweek ahead. we have a lot of sunshine even along the coastline today managed to clear out most of those clouds will maybe couple patches of fog form along the coastline overnight tonight, but it's not going to be much stay mostly clear toward the golden gate bridge. that's the way it looks now to that sea breeze has kicked in just a bit to help cool things down. temperatures started to move up the board just a bit. in fact, nice big in the week. we're t

. >> i've never talked to him about vice presidents, but ohio republican senator jd vance told me he's open to being former president trump's running mate. if the president asked me, i have to think seriously about because i want to help the freshman senator's a strong supporter of trump. i think his policies work. they brought peace and prosperity. american people, then it's joins a list of republican lawmakers like new york congresswoman elise stefanik, south carolina, senator tim scott and florida senator marco rubio for the gig. rubio was asked on nbc's meet the press about seeing trump's running mate. >> i haven't spoken to president. haven't spoken to anybody in the campaign. the only people spoken to me about vice president for the most part are members of the media, political science professor todd built says when it comes to trump choosing a vice presidential candidate, he's looking for one thing. it's the loyalty. it has nothing to do with delivering the state. several lawmakers including vance are attending trump's trial in new york to show their support. >> the type of pers

vance, aye. mr. coons, aye. the clerk: ms. klobuchar, aye. the clerk: mr. scott of south carolina, aye. vote: the clerk: mr. welch, aye. mr. johnson, aye. the clerk: mr. braun, aye. the clerk: mr. warnock, aye. ms. rosen, aye. the clerk: mr. graham, aye. mr. budd, aye. the clerk: mr. hoeven, aye. the clerk: ms. lummis, aye. the clerk: mr. lee, aye. the clerk: mr. brown, aye. vote: the clerk: mr. mullin, aye. the clerk: mr. van hollen, aye. the clerk: the yeas are 90, the nays are 4. the nomination is confirmed. under the previous order, the motion to reconsider is considered made and laid upon the table, and the president will be immediately notified of the senate's action. under the previous order, the senate will resume consideration of the following nomination which the clerk will report. the clerk: nomination, the judiciary, seth robert aframe of new hampshire to be united states circuit judge for the first circuit. the presiding officer: the senator from tennessee. mr. hagerty: mr. president, i ask consent for senator schatz and i to conclude our remar

marco rubio, jd vance, elise stefanik. they were critical of donald trump when they were being honest and thought the rest of the party would follow them. because they said, they called him out for what he was. when the party made the decision to go along with this for political expediency, they created a frankenstein monster that they cannot turn back on. they have to go along in order to maintain political relevance. that is the problem here. they are putting their party over the country and over principal. at this point, over free and fair elections going forward. they know what kind of a monster donald trump is. they know he is off of his rocker and unhinged in what he plans to do is surround himself with people who could execute at this time unlike the last time whenever guardrails. they know this but they don't care. and it is important that democrats continue to call them out. i'm glad to see president biden is starting to do that and his campaign is doing that. that is fantastic. the democratic party speaks in one