al you have a degree in economics from vanderbilt.houghtbout these thin but not everybody,re there a lot of other players have a plan b or would you say that you're e exception? >> i wouldn'tay i'm the exception. you hear about tons of guys that have businesses on the side. i know a couple other guys did internships. they offer these business management etrepneural programs at some of the best business schools around the couny. i did one at wharton this off-season. they do them at harvard, northwestern, stanford. they have many opportunities for you and i would say the guys understand that they're not going to play forever and only a few guys make that huge amount of mney where they don't have t worrabout working when they get done. so i think everybody, i guess kind of proud of me i tookhe nichetive to -- initiative to get something done when i'mou of football. melissa: good for you. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me. melissa: up next, does this teapot look like anyone familiar? look at it? the resemblance to one

somehow it managed to get itself into this dorm room at vanderbilt university in nashville, tennessee this is chris and gerald trying to get the bat out. >> come on. >> able to get it out of the light fixture, but at this point it's hanging on the sprinkler. >> big, strong men. some members of the football team come to help and they end up running away screaming like -- >> [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> not like big burlily men. >> just get a couple of oven mitts. >> should have called beth trautman, apparently. bat whisperer. >> one guy decides to take a broom, going to take a swing at it. >> let me get it. >> it does look bad, but the bat was okay. >> [ bleep ]. >> go right under. >> they grab a recycling bin and trap it between the ceiling tiles and the recycle bin. >> now they are using their college education. >> they eventually got their man card back. >> running through the dorms screaming and yelping, i would have been nervous about posting this online. >> they release it and it flew away, and the bat looked fine, just a little shaken up from the experience. >> oh, it flew out. oh,

. >> at vanderbilt university in nashville, tennessee, and this is chris fitzgerald trying to get the bat out. >> come on. >> able to get it out of the light fixture and this is hanging on the sprinkler. >> it is kind of funny to see these big strong men because even members of the football team come to try to help and end up run ago way. >> not big burly men. >> go in with a couple of oven mitts and carry it out. >> that could be dangerous. >> should have called beth troutman apparently, the bat whisperer. >> finally, one guy decides to take a broom and he is going to take a swing at it. >> get it. >> let me do it. >> get it. >> it does look bad but the bat was okay. >> oh, my. >> finally. >> go right under. >> they grab a recycling bin and carefully trap it between what is the ceiling tiles and the recycle bin. >> now they're using their college education. >> yeah. >> there you go. >> eventually got their man card back. >> running through the dorms screaming and yelling, i would have been a little nervous about posting this video online. >> what? >> they do release it and it flew aw

william shatner, chair of the department of preventive medicine at vanderbilt university. >> the doctorho discovered this virus said at some stage he is pretty certain this is going to cause an epidemic. do you agree? >> my fingers are crossed that that will not happen. at the moment this virus is not capable of sustained transmission from person to person, and i certainly hope it doesn't pick up that genetic component that permits it to do that. otherwise we will have sars-2 with widespread infection, infection within hospitals and a lot of very sick and dying people. >> and how significant is it that this virus is able to spread from person to person. unlike bird flu which can only go from animals to people. >> it makes an enormous difference, because if you can have sustained transmission from person to person, then it can to people around you readily. and if you get sick in the hospital, it can be spread to health care works as happened with sars. >> how critical does this one seem to be if you contract it? >> if you get it, you are admitteded to the hospital in intensive care units

impulse control and you get back to the basic problem that chris who is a colleague of anita's at vanderbilt, wait he has put it, how do you distinguish and irresistible impulse from an impulse not resisted. there is a basic gray area, a difficult ability to say, did you actually choose that and did you choose it in a way that the law would recognize. so the law all of the time develops concepts that scientists are interested in studying. it might be competency, for example. well, competency is really a multifaceted construct from a legal perspective. it could be competency to be executed, it could be competency to commit a crime. it could be competency to contribute to the decision as to whether voluntarily commit yourself to a mental hospital. it could be competency to participate in an abortion decision. so competency means many different things. the first thing you have to do as a scientist is ask the question, well, what does the law mean by it because if you want me to measure it, i have to somehow apply it. so going back to the question of free will, because a scientist can't operatio

third generation soldier, grew up in a military family. 9/11 happened, i was in vanderbilt university's rotc program. decided i wanted to be an airborne ranger. ultimately ended up leading a scout trooper platoon in iraq hunting high of value targets. had a wonderful group of guys, and we were taking apart some of the vehicle bomb networks over there affiliated with al-qaeda. when i was getting out, had a commander that refused to write me a letter of resignation unless i applied to around saturday business school. i told him he was crazy, but he said a deal's a deal and ended up at harvard business where i met my cofounder. >> host: first of all, did you graduate from harvard? >> guest: i did. i managed to finish it. i did all right, too, so i guess he saw something that i didn't. >> host: all right. after that, how did -- what is troop id, and how did the idea come about? is. >> guest: sure. yeah, we noticed in 2009 that brands were trying to give different benefits to service members and veterans, but microsoft was giving away free learning vouchers to veterans, but in order to claim

this was built as a social club in the 1800s for the likes of the rockefellers and the vanderbilts. >hey didn't have enough to do. or places to go. >> these days it's great for everyone. it's only $199 for the starting rate, which is fantastic. they have girlfriend getaways. they've got fantastic biking. also stunning beaches there. great for kids, too. in the summer they've got a cooking camp. >> how much is a splurge? are they really pricey? >> around $400 a night and they're worth every penny. >> looked like it. yeah. >> let's move on to the northeast. what's your splurge in new england? >> in maine we've got the hidden pond. this is near kennebunkport. 36 glamorous cottages. screened-in porches and outdoor showers, yoga, stand-up paddling. my favorite thing to do are the nightly bonfires. and you can make s'mores, which we love. and our steal is off the coast. it's 12 miles off the coast of maine. this is a wonderful little hidden gem. nine-room hotel with clawfoot tubs and cast iron beds, and it's also a foodie getaway. they've got farm to table dinners. >> how much is that? >> $

studies professor at colombia university and carol swain professor of political science and law at vanderbilt university. professor nye, let me start with you. >> as we look at the long arc of american immigration law have there ever been attempts to distinguish between high-skilled and low-skilled labor? >> well that's a great question because it's actually a fairly recent phenomenon. in the past we actually had no restrictions on immigration so anybody who wanted to come just came. and they found work an at the urn of the la century 100 years ago most of the immigrants who came actually were in the lower-skilled strata. >> suarez: on balance in your view, as a historian, have they done well and has the country done well for their presence? >> well, the first generation of immigrants then, as now, usually are working in the lower-skilled strata of the work force. over time they tend to move up. some of them move up. and their children tend to move up. so this ia gneral pattern i think u could say in american history, yes. >> suarez: professor swain, as we debate how to move forward and wheth

during that timeframe, would they have known the rockefellers and the vanderbilts? >> chester arthur and his wife did. i would not doubt that she would've had contact with them. >> thank you. was there a big age difference between the president and mrs. garfield? >> i do not recall. i think it was five years or less. the president was shot again july 2 and he lingered until september. the decision was made to move him to the jersey shore. he had beenplace headed to see her. that is where he dies. in her presence. she gets her -- she gets a letter from julia tyler. -- ated to emphasize that sorority of presidential spouses. >> the funeral. set the stage for this victorian era funeral. what says it all is the way the white house looked to read trend in the most intricate patterns. was strongld throughout. she did not break down some a unlike mary lincoln, who were a -- who were unable to emotionally withstand the public display of this. began designing and working with the ideas of -- would beb with like in ohio. jacqueline kennedy, took that model and became very muc

and grant except that, borrowers $150,000 from william vanderbilt. and ward ensconced with the money to canada. and the fortune is lost -- ward the with the money -- with the money. host: we have not talked about them leaving the white house. there were no restrictions on running for a third term. did the grants which to seek a third term? guest: he didn't. she did. when he declined, he did not tell her. he gave the letter to them without telling her, and she began to be suspicious. they are in the upstairs and the hall of the white house and she says, you cannot do this. you can't do this to me. host: wanted to continue being first lady? guest: and he said, it is done. she seems to have held up fine until inaugural day when they got into the the train car. and then she said she went to the bedroom and fell on the bed and sobbed and cried. she hated to leave the place. guest: she said she felt like a because she home, was not sure what was going to happen. guest: surely she had felt that before. host: she was loathe to leave. did they plot a comeback

william shafner of vanderbilt university is with us, former president of the national foundation forday. i know it's early. >> good morning to you, gayle. >> it's good to see you. what are doctors most concerned about with these two viruses? >> well we're most concerned that these viruses might develop the capacity to be transmitted very readily from person to person. in which case we could have many outbreaks of disease around the world and perhaps even in the united states. >> we're talking about the corona virus, right, one that has spread from the middle east to europe. ning it in other places around the world? >> well, at the moment, its heart is in the middle east but some people can travel from the middle east to other parts of the world, the united kingdom, france, and develop their illness in those locations. so all of us are alert to anyone traveling from the middle east or from china with the bird flu virus infection. if they come to the united states and get sick we'll jump on that, put them in isolation, get specimens, send those to the cdc for analysis. >> is it similar

my question is, during that time frame would they have known the rockefellers and the vanderbilts? >> guest: that -- the arthur -- chester arthur and his wife did, right after them. but the garfields did not at the time they were in the white house in later years mrs. garfield was quite well respected and well known in the country, and i wouldn't doubt that she would have had contact with them. >> host: and next up is kerry, from new mexico. how, kerry. >> caller: huh. thank you. was there a big age difference between the president and mrs. garfield? >> guest: i don't recall. i just -- i think it was five years or less but i don't remember the specific birth dates. the pratt when is shot july 2nd and lingers until sims. the decision is made to move him to the jersey shore. >> guest: the very place he had been headed to see her and join her, and that is where he do is. in her presence. and what is really interesting is that among the many, many letters she received, she gets one from a former first lady, julia tyler, who not only sends a telegram, as does former first lady sara polk

borrows $150,000 from william vanderbilt, and ferdinand ease cons the money to canada and the fortunate is lost. grant says that he doesn't know if he'll be able to trust anyone ever again. >> we have them in the post white house years. we haven't talked about them leaving the white house. people watching should know this. at the time there were no restrictions on running for a third term. >> yeah. >> did the grants wish to seek a term? >> no. there were many anemia want the him do. she did. when he -- declined. he didn't tell her. he gave the letter without telling her. she began to be suspicious. they are upstairs at the home in the white house and said you can't do this. he said i declined. she said you can't do this to me. i want . >> she wanted to continue being first lady. >> he said it's done. that's it. and she seems to have held up fine until when they got on the palace car, they call it, the train car and she said she went to a broofm and fell on the bed and sobbed and cried and wept. she hated to leave the place. >> she said she felt like a wife with no home. she wasn't sure

>> well, i actually lost my voice last year and -- and i was treated at the vanderbilt voice clinic for so if it's changed, i think i just have more respect for an aging body. >> yeah. >> yeah. how horrifying was that? >> it was scary. yeah. body. >> how horrifying was that? >> it was scary. i thought well, i will learn something else. i will do something else. >> you dedicate this album to your mom. >> yes. >> that personal relationship, the intensity of that, how did that frame out the rest of the album beyond the first song to tell the narrative throughout for you in that relationship with your mom? >> it was really after the record was finished that i was thinking about my mom. she passed away two years ago and when i was about two months before she died, i went to see her one night. she had that crazy dementia that one day she was herself and one day she thought she was pregnant. oh, my god, you are 79. i hope not. i had gone to visit her and on the way to the tour bus and i told her i have to go sing. she said oh, you sing? i went, i do. the first person i ever sing a song for. sh

during that timeframe, would they have known the rockefellers and the vanderbilts?> chester arthur and his wife did. i would not doubt that she would've had contact with them. >> thank you. was there a big age difference between the president and mrs. garfield? >> i do not recall. i think it was five years or less. >> the president was shot again july 2 and he lingered until september. the decision was made to move him to the jersey shore. >> the very place he had been headed to see her. that is where he dies, in her presence. she gets a letter from julia tyler. i wanted to emphasize that -- a sorority of presidential spouses. >> the funeral. set the stage for this victorian-era funeral. >> what says it all is the way the white house looked. mrs. garfield was strong throughout. she did not break down, unlike mary lincoln, who was unable to emotionally withstand the public display of this. mrs. garfield began designing and working with the ideas of what his tomb would be like in ohio. >> jacqueline kennedy took that model and became very much involved in the planning

and grant except that, borrowers $150,000 from william vanderbilt.nd ward ensconced with the money to canada. and the fortune is lost -- ward absconds with the with the money with the money. host: we have not talked about them leaving the white house. there were no restrictions on running for a third term. did the grants which to seek a third term? guest: he didn't. she did. when he declined, he did not tell her. he gave the letter to them without telling her, and she began to be suspicious. they are in the upstairs and the hall of the white house and she says, you cannot do this. you can't do this to me. host: wanted to continue being first lady? guest: and he said, it is done. she seems to have held up fine until inaugural day when they got into the the train car. and then she said she went to the bedroom and fell on the bed and sobbed and cried. she hated to leave the place. guest: she said she felt like a waif with no home, because she was not sure what was going to happen. guest: surely, she had felt that before. host: she was loathe to leave. d

there are papers from vanderbilt university that said will. >> willie is your buddy.p with the last name. wow. >> names can be hard. especially on a resumÉ or something. >> i always put dylan marie dreyer in case they were looking for a man. >> you can take your name and be shy about i. when you roll with it, my nephew jules rolls jules. >> guy is guy. >> it's your brand. >> guy's guy. >> all right, natalie. other stories out there. >> headlines this morning. an important story and another military sexual assault scandal unfolding. sources tell nbc news that army investigators are investigating allegations that an army sergeant at ft. hood in texas sexually assaulted a female soldier under his command, forced her into prostitution and assaulted two other victims. lawmakers are outraged saying it is time for the defense secretary to get tough and just last week in a separate incident the officer in charge of sexual assault prevention in the air force was accused of sexual battery. >>> attorney general eric holder faces tough questions at a capitol hill hearing today. h

island club this was built as a social club in the 1800s, for likes of the rockefellers and the vanderbiltse. great for kids, too. in the summer they've got a cooking camp. >> how much is a splurge? are they really pricey? >> around $400 a night and they're worth every penny. >> they look like it. >>> let's move on to the northeast. what's your splurge in new england? >> in maine, the hidden pond near kennebunkport. 36 glamorous cotsages, screened-in porches and outdoor showers, yoga, stand-up paddling. my favorite thing to do are the nightly bonfires, can you make s'mores, which we love. and our steal is off the coast. 12 miles off the coast of maine, a wonderful little hidden gem, nine-room hotel with clawfoot tubs and cath iron beds, also a foodie getaway. farm-to-table dinners. >> how much is that? >> $100 night, may and june. it goes up a little as the summer goes on. >> take us out west to the pacific. >> pacific, we've got the four seasons biltmore in santa barbara. >> that's one my favorite places in the world. >> i love that place. >> look at the view. >> to die for. >> great acces

. >> totally the vanderbilts had it right here.t tracts yachtsman and with the yachtsmen come the socialites, fine dining, incredible shopping so you have to love newport. >> it's not purely fancy high end. >> no, it definitely isn't. it's a wonderful place to go with the family, the cliffwalk, the historic mansions. it has the sense of history you want to explore. >> number four, sag harbor, new york, a place i was in saturday, such a beautiful, little town. >> a great place to be for dinner over the weekend. it's a world away from manhattan, only two hours from new york city but it's such a charming and quaint village. it has a unique main street with restaurants and shops and their iconic windmill and a lot of community pride, memorial day parades, at christmastime they do a tree light, santa comes in on a fire truck so this lovely sense of community there. >> legend gear american hotel and with two little kids every ice cream joint i can tell you in that town as well. number three, sanibel island. >> this is the happiness we co

and grant except that, borrowers $150,000 from william vanderbilt. and ward ensconced with the -- absconds with the money to canada. and the fortune is lost -- ward absconds with the with the money -- with the money. host: we have not talked about them leaving the white house. there were no restrictions on running for a third term. did the grants which to seek a third term? guest: he didn't. she did. when he declined, he did not tell her. he gave the letter to them without telling her, and she began to be suspicious. they are in the upstairs and the hall of the white house and she says, you cannot do this. you can't do this to me. host: wanted to continue being first lady? guest: and he said, it is done. she seems to have held up fine until inaugural day when they got into the the train car. and then she said she went to the bedroom and fell on the bed and sobbed and cried. she hated to leave the place. guest: she said she felt like a waif with no home, because she was not sure what was going to happen. guest: surely, she had felt that before. host: