vanderbilt, jr., the dean of new york city law school and of the supreme court of the state of new jersey. he had a court that was in disarray, disrepute and in all facts judicially inefficient. it seems to me that if we look at it now and about your ability to secure independence for judges and respect for the courts and to solve the financial problems, we might look to try to perfect what we do and better what we do more efficiently and more effectively to apply the law to the facts. and the facts to the law. find ways in justice courts, in municipal courts, to actually give the judge what the facts are as they've been listened to by somebody else or arrived at so that you have can handle far more cases than you could before and it would be reviewable, it would be transparent, it would be at the lowest possible level, it would be where all of the country -- most of the people of the country interact with the judicial system. but you could take in light of that discussion on judicial efficiency and applying law to the facts. >> well, judge vanderbilt of course is also known as the dean o

vanderbilt jr., the dean of new york city law school and of the supreme court of the state of new jersey disarray, disrepute. it was judicially inefficient. it seems to me that if we look at it now, and about your ability to secure independence for judges, and respect for the courts, and to solve the financial problems, we might look to try to perfect what we do and better what we do more efficiently and more effectively, to apply the law to the facts. the fact is the law. find ways in justice courts, in municipal courts, to actually give the judge what the facts are, as they have been listened to by somebody else, so you can handle far more cases than you could before. it would be reviewable. it would be transparent. it would be at the lowest possible level. it would be where most of the people in the country interact with the judicial system. you could in life and that discussion on judicial efficiency and apply law to the facts. >> judge vendor built was also known as the dean of judicial administration, one of the founders of the field. it is what i am so passionate about judicial ad

jr.. he went to vanderbilt but he had been on our board.s in the alumni so we are very pleased to have them a part of the university family. c-span: how big is your board? >> guest: our board is 42. it has a number of ex-officio numbers -- members. we have the voting students, an alumnus and we have three bishops of the united methodist church on the board. so it turns over more or less every four years people have to be reaffirmed. there is a term limit of three, four year terms. that can there can be exceptions but by and large 42 is a good-sized. it's obviously has to not only govern the university but encourage others to be part of the university. c-span: go back to the first moment you thought about getting george w. bush to bring his library and his museum here to this campus. >> guest: the first time we set it in action, when he started running, but we didn't do anything at all until after the florida vote. after that vote, i walked into vice president for executive affairs the position i had in oklahoma and his name was tom berry. i