she was determined to go to law school, worked her way through law school at vanderbilt university, was the only woman to graduate in the class of 1936, and that was very early for women lawyers. and then married albert sr. and threw herself in his political career. she was maybe more a politician than he was. he was more policy, she was more people. she would slog through the muddy back roads of tennessee, knocking on doors, leaving material for them to read. she was a very good politician, and she had the presidency in mind for her son al from the time he was about 6. >> where did you grow up? >> in north carolina. >> wrap? >> winston-salem, yes. >> how long were you there? >> i worked there for a while after i graduate from college for the newspaper there, and then i went to "newsday" and then to "time." >> where did you go to college? >> university of north carolina, yes. i'm a tar heel all the way. >> how many years at "time" magazine? >> i have been with "time" magazine about 30 years. which is a long time. >> why did you pick the profession of journalism? >> i started when i was