take for example vanderbilt university, in nashville, tennessee. >> we have a college of arts and science, a school of music, a school of education and human development and a great school of engineering as well. >> reporter: as you can see, a "college" can be its own institution, or it can be part of a university. confusing, i know. so what's right for you? check out both types of schools online and if possible, in person. see which feels more comfortable. keep in mind that the quality of education depends on the specific school you ultimately go to. not whether it's a small college or a large university. i'm lauren for "teen kids news." >> that wraps up our show. we'll be back with more "teen kids news." >> thanks for joining us, and have a great week. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> write to us at info@teenkidsnews.com. >>> on behalf of everyone here at "teen kids news" we want to give a special thanks to all of our military overseas.

most rigorous tests cannot year ago, last september from vanderbilt university the added bonus of $15,000 found that after -- >> guest: it's not taking -- >> host: will the concept work and the concept did not work. >> guest: i don't think you need to tell a good teacher that if you stay good i'm going to give you $10,000 or 15,000 if you are bad you are not going to get ten or 15,000. anyone in a system like that, running in isolation without changing a whole overarching ethical workplace it's destined to fail and to produce exactly the kind of little research that people like you will use. the deniers. when you are denying is the basic logic two or three different things you've denied. this is feeling and it is the only work place and the only system anywhere in this country where it has no role. performance however you define it has no role. results have no role. that's crazy. >> host: did you see the studies and the council that came out just a few months ago, too late to be in your book that says that incentives contest the accountability don't work? this is the 17 comparably the lea

the most rigorous test of merit pay came out a year ago, last september from vanderbilt university. they had a bonus of $15,000 -- >> guest: because it's a bonus of isolation. >> host: it was to prove the -- will the concept work? and the concept did not work. >> guest: i don't think you need to tell a good teacher that if you stay good i'm going to give you $10,000 or $15,000. if you get bad you are not going to get $10,000 or $15,000. anyone that puts in a system like that, running in isolation without changing the whole overarching ethic of that workplace, it's destined to fail and destined to produce exactly the kind of little research that people like you will use to be denied. : we've tried this for at least 20 years in this country. it does not work. it's had the most important they need is an internal sense. people come into educations. they don't expect to make a lot of money. they expect the autonomy kirkus professionals. >> guest: i layout of the book the way you can pay teachers 65,000 to 165,000 without spending an extra nickel of taxpayers money by changing various thi

the most rigorous test of merit pay came out a year ago, last september from vanderbilt university and they had a bonus of $15,000. they found after two years -- >> guest: because it is said bonus. >> host: will the concept work in the concept did not. >> guest: i don't think you need to tell a good teacher that at the stake that i'm going to give you $10,000 or $15,000 if you get bad you will not get 10 or $15,000. and anyone the one who puts in a system like that running in isolation without changing the whole overarching ethic of that workplace is destined to fail and is destined to produce exactly the kind of research that people like you will used to be the deniers. >> host: there's no research on merit pay. >> guest: what you are denying us the basic logic, two or three different things you are denying. the system is failing and it is the only work place and the only system anywhere in this country where merit has no role. performance however you define it, has no role. results however you define them have no role. that is crazy. >> host: did you see the study from the national r

he came on a police blockade near the vanderbilt university campus. that was 10 blocks from my office. by the time he arrived, he knew why it had been blockaded, which was a suspicious package at a hotel. it was found not to be an explosive device. the story had come and gone in the course of 10 blocks. he had time to tweet and got all of that through. we tend to think of the new media explosion and the big stories, but that was an ordinary story that turned out not to be newsworthy in the larger sense, and yet he knew about it. how has 24 it/seven, instant media made this business different? for good or for bad? >> what has made it a different in a lot of ways -- you can instantaneously learn about all kinds of things, whether it is at vanderbilt or in egypt. we hear a lot about citizen journal -- psittacine journalism. a lot of it is not confirmable. there is a huge amount of information that comes out quickly. in general, news organizations have changed. there was a rule that if someone cover a story at 10:00 in the morning, they cannot ride until

he came on a police blockade near the vanderbilt university campus. that was probably ten blocks from my office. by the time he arrived at my office, he knew why it had been block candidated which was a suspicious -- blockaded which was a suspicious package at a hotel. he knew the package had been found not to be an explosive device. the story had kind of come and gone in the course of ten blocks. he was stuck for a moment and had time to tweet and got that all the way through. so we tend to think of these, the new media explosion and the new media use on the big stories, but there was a fairly ordinary story, obviously, that turned out not to be newsworthy in the largest sense, and yet he knew about it. so i'm going to ask with that as a backdrop plus the mega trials, how has 24/7, instant media made this business different? for good or bad? >> it's made it different in a lot of ways and in both ways, i think. sort of of your example, the fact that, you know, it reflect back that you can instantaneously learn about all kinds of things whether it's at

vanderbilt. he is now at the university of texas at austin where he is b. dixon allan anderson professor of history. his books include "traitor to his class, and george jackson." some of his books have been best sellers. you can see him on television. you can hear him on the radio. he is now working on a book about a another president, ulysses s. grant. please, welcome h w brands. >> thank you perce >> let's start with an assessment for each one of you on how this president he is doing. is he the "i got osama bin laden president?" bob, i will let you start it off. >> thank you. how we think he is doing will look a lot different in some years than it does now. if there is anything i have learned from my books it is that things look so different at the time than they do a few years down the road. i can give you an example from robert moses. he was so popular in new york city. everybody in our class had to write for their junior paper, robert moses is a great example of a great night in literature -- knight in literature. that is in the 1950's. by the 1970's,

earned graduate degrees in math and history and oregon and texas, has taught and vanderbilt, texas a&m and at university of texas austin where he is the dixon allan anderson centennial prof. of history. bill writes on american history and politics and his books include "traitor to his class -- and jackson." several of his books have been best sellers. two finalists for pulitzer prize. he lectures frequently of history and current events. you can see him on tv, you can hear him on radio, and he is now working on a book about yet another president, ulysses s. grant. please welcome h.w. brands. gentlemen, welcome to all of you. let us start briefly with an assessment from each one of you about how this president is doing. is he your eat your peas president, or i got osama bin laden, or something else? >> thanks. [laughter] >> the only thing i can say to you is, how we think he is doing will look a lot different in some years than it does now. it always does. if there is anything i learned from my books is things look so different at the time than they do a few years down the road. in fact, i can give you a

yes, at vanderbilt, texas a&m, and is now the university of texas at austin where he is the dixon allan anderson centennial pratt -- professor of history. he writes american history and politics. several of his books have been bestsellers. two were finalists for the pulitzer prize. he lectures his -- lectures on history and current events and you can see him on tv, hear him on the radio and he is now working on a book about yet another president, ulysses s. grant. welcome. [applause] let's start with a brief assessment from each one of view on how the president is doing. is he the peace president, the osama bin laden president or something else? >> thank you. the only thing i can say to you is how we think he is doing is going to look a lot different in some years that it does now. it always does. if there's anything i've learned from my books is that things looked so different at the time than they do a few years down the road. i can give you an example from robert moses and lyndon johnson. robert moses was so popular in new york city, i went to horseman, and everyone at our class had