from our on this on the coronavirus vaccine we bring in dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center dr schaffner thank you for joining us today let's start with this 1000000 dollar question there's no published data even though we just heard from the chief saying that the results from the face 3 trial will be published so is this marxian going to be safe and effective. well we certainly hope so and the phase 3 trial of course will tell us that one patient even though the prime minister's daughter. it is not sufficient to get a vaccine out to hundreds of thousands if not millions of people and there is a little bit of confusion about how quickly this vaccine will be distributed to the population or whether they are going to wait until the results of that phase 3 trial are available which is of course the way we intend to do it right well let me ask you this dr we've seen a mcgurn also start there face 3 trial here in the united states how what's the difference between mcgurn us trial and what russia is announcing that they've completed a phase 2 trial and are just star

william is an internationally renound infectious disease expert at vanderbilt university medical center. >> the little bit of virus that does get through, their hypothesis is that that gives you a milder infection. and so you get protected kind of on the cheap as it were. and that may help actually give many people protection. >> he says the gandhi report is another good reason to mask up. >> we should all continue to wear our masks everyday. >> back at point isabel, the reaction -- >> i hope that proves to be correct. >> i hope the rest of the country gets the message. real quick. >> dr. gandhi told us many new covid cases that are severe and require icu care are connected to settings where essential workers may not be handed masks, in san francisco, kpix 5. >>> the bay area does not have a uniform policy to distribute masks to essential workers. in taiwan, the government quickly moved to provide masks to all its essential wos. coronavirus cases in a country of more than 23 million. >>> the eviction moratorium in santa clara county will be extended through september 30th. the board of

tina hartert at vanderbilt university is overseeing a unique study of 2,000 families across a dozen cities to learn about a child's role in transmission. >> the kits are shipped to the families. they are taught how to collect these samples, and then the samples are sent back by the families to a central repository. >> reporter: mendy mcnulty's family is taking part from their home in tennessee. >> we're going to swab in one nostril. >> reporter: her sons andrew and hudson getting swabbed every two weeks. >> administering the nose swabs and taking the blood, that kind of thing, is definitely a new experience. >> reporter: with her kids going back to classrooms soon, she's anxious. >> i am nervous about sending a building withlding with hundreds of other people when we have been isolated for so many months here in our home. tonight, parentsght, parents everywhere are wondering when children might be able to get a vaccine. the initial trials being done here are using adults, and only after those are complete will forldren be considered for vaccin vaccination. margaret. >> brennan: janet shaml

the last year because that's definitely a new normal that is dr william schaffner with the vanderbilt university medical center we really appreciate you making time for us today and and i getting your your expert insight. thank you so much good to be with you. airline stocks are seeing some big gains this week as investors are eyeing a nearly $25000000000.00 relief package won sunday t.s.a. saw the highest single day total passengers of more than $831000.00 people that pass through t.s.a. checkpoints now this was the highest since and that march despite the increased t.s.a. traffic is still 70 percent down compared to last year well the airline's financial losses continue to grow and executives are warning it could cost tens of thousands of jobs without government support together american and united airlines warned more than $60000.00 employee jobs are at risk for more on the sector we're joined by allied pilots association communication chairman dennis dennis good to see you thanks for being with us today this is a great to be back with you this is a particularly crucial season we're looking a

william shafter, a professor at vanderbilt university. the other doctor is dr.iam hassletein, author of "the new book of covid back-to-school guide." thank you, doctors. what do you think of dr. fauci's warning? are we close to having this virus under control? >> don, it's more of the same, i'm afraid. the virus continues to spread, largely unchecked throughout most of the country. the country is still not serious about wearing masks, social distancing, and avoiding charge group -- large groups. when that is the case, when we continue to have community spread, it's very difficult to open schools at very low risk. there are things we can do. but this virus is still out there spreading. it's not going to disappear, don. >> doctor, talk about the schools for me, please. >> well, he's exactly right. we're now in a stage of community spread. it's very dangerous state to be in for any gathering. let alone schools in which you're in generally small spaces for a long time. there are three or four things that i advise parents to do. the first is to know their environment

tina heartert of vanderbilt university is working with the nih on the study of the coronavirus. and a former professor at harvard medical school and author of covid back to school guide. when you hear dr. fauci say there should be universal mask wearing? at schools, i'm wondering, does that make sense? >> it makes a lot of sense. children can be infected. children can infect others, and children can contract very serious disease. i think when we talk about children, we have to say children from zero to 5. they're highly infectious to other people. they have 1,000 times more virus in their nose than you need to infect. >> when the president says that children don't pass it on. in the same way that adults do, that's just not correct? >> in fact, it's correct. only in the opposite sense. it's likely that small children pass it on much more efficiently. then have you children in the ages of 6 to 12. they're the ones who are most likely to get the lethal effects of all the kids. they're the ones that get the you a lethal effects. the peak is about age 7 to 8. then you have children 1

president trump's announcement moments ago, let's bring in the professor of infectious diseases at vanderbilt universityit's not a vaccine, doctor. it is a treatment. what do you think of it? >> well, jon, my heart hopes that it's right, but my brain is more cautious than the enthusiasm that we've heard. the data, although it's a large amount of data is really grade c data. it's not critically done. i wish they had started to use the plasma in a controlled trial, with placebos. we don't really know how effective it is. and i want to quote the fda commissioner stephen hahn, it's promising efficacy, and the data suggests. that level of caution is appropriate. actually this emergency use authorization will make it easier for people to actually get plasma. we don't know how well it works still, and it will make it more difficult to recruit patients into the trials that are ongoing that would give it a rigorous evaluation. the fda has done this before. they did an emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine. they were all enthusiastic about it and then had to withdraw it when it was found not to work.

with me is infectious disease professor of vanderbilt university dr. william shafter. the fact the epa says we have the numbers, 100,000 children testing positive for covid-19 in a two-week period at the end of july in this country, and at least 86 children have died from it in this country since may, you said that this will lead to a turbulent school season. i think yes. no one can dispute that. does it change your thinking about how and which schools should be opening physically? >> well, poppy, it reinforces the notion that first of all, although children are let apt to get really sick, some do, but they're less apt to get sick. they can certainly been infected. if they can become infected, they can shed the virus and they can be contagious. so they're clearly distributors, and what this means is we're going to be seeing outbreaks particularly the more we test, around the country, among children, as we open up our schools. of course the reason all this is happening is because we haven't controlled the virus spread in the community. new zealand has now celebrated its

they tell you is worth acting on and that's why i have infectious disease specialist with vanderbilt university on the show as often as i do. i know his credentials, i tracked him over time on this. nobody knows everything. he asks the right questions and he's worried about the right things. thank you for being a gift to the audience and to me when i was sick during this time. >> good to be with you, chris, here's a reality, it may be three hours early, but congratulations on entering the second half century of your life's adventure. happy birthday, pal. >> there will have to be better scientists than you to keep me alive for another 50 years, but thank you very much. this is an easy fact check. pre-existing condition protection exists now in the law. he's fighting it in courts. he's not giving us anything with an executive order the way he says he is. is that the truth? >> it's the truth. i'm kind of baffled. maybe existing conditions need the protection of an executive order against members of his own party who want to repeal it. when i was an intern, i thought by now we would have universal

william schaffner joins us now from vanderbilt university. doctor, thanks so much for joining us. at least 20 states seeing a downward trend in new cases here. what is working in those states? >> well, jim, what we think is working is wearing masks, social distancing and avoiding large gatherings. you know the population seems to have divided itself into two groups. there's the safe group, the very careful group that are adhering to that, and then there's the other group that are more carefree rather than careful, and we're still concerned that there are too many carefree people out there. as admiral giroir said, we have to maintain this for a long period of time. it's not a sprint. it's a marathon, and the virus is not just going to disappear, so we have to maintain these mitigation efforts if we want to keep controlling this virus. >> doctor, what do you make of the guidance -- we just had the president of the american academy of pediatrics on last hour and their guidance is pushing really hard for schools to reopen but she acknowledged there are places where they should not ope

todd rice down at vanderbilt university medical center, he talked about how his hospital dealt with thehough the hospital system had developed a randomized placebo-controlled trial for convalescent plasma, the other trials took priority. how concerning is that to you, especially as some leaders continue to promote hydroxychloroquine as a treatment despite the fact it's been proven not to help? >> this is something i've been worried about from day one, the push of politics over public health. we know and i've been on tv and social media trying to educate people that as of today there's no rigorous good science that says hydroxychloroquine, whether given early or late, whether alone or in combination with other medications, has any meaningful impact on covid-19. despite this we still hear people pushing this in a pedestal, our politicians. it's frustrating because we know it's not true. it's frustrating because, as you're pointing out, is this taking up space, not just this conversation we're having on tv, but taking up space in hospitals in terms of how we're doing research and how we're

. >> well joining me now, john meacham, historian, biographer, distinguished professor at vanderbilt universityok, his truth is margin on. so good to have you here. i'm curious of all these biblical tones, what you make of this. the references to darkness and light. >> well, i think the president is going to walk right into a conversation that vice president biden wants to have. and more importantly, i think most of us want to have, which is if you look at the last three and a half years, if you look at the tone and tenor and style and substance of what president trump has given us, and the management, mismanagement, of the pandemic, would you call this a sunny moment in america? or a shadowy one? is this a, you know, is this a president or a moment that is what we want to be. as a clinical matter. i am not a democrat. right? this is a clinical, historical, reason based observation. is it a moment of light when 176,000 americans have died? when we have the worst performance on the pandemic of any nation on earth? where we're about to reach great depression level jobless level jobless numbers an

william shaffner, an infectious disease specialist at vanderbilt university. shannon, i want to start with you. today, the president said he's alonging very strongly at an executive order to address some of the financial concerns that millions of americans are facing as congress is still stalled. i wonder if there's any action behind the scenes on that or if it's the same thing as him saying that he was going to have a health care plan two weeks ago in two weeks which is now and so far there is no health care plan. >> well, right. no health care plan, a number of things that were supposed to come in two weeks that we do not have. on the front of some sort of executive action when it comes to extending this unemployment insurance, you know, that's something that the white house is certainly posturing. it's very difficult to tell at this point whether that's sort of a negotiating tactic or something they are actually considering and believe they could pull off legally, and even if they can't pull it off legally, can they pull it off politically? because of cours

. >> one of the many things that you've done is you've given a million dollars to the vanderbilt universitym wondering, for people who aren taking this very seriously, what would you say to them? >> well, i think you better take it serious since we don't know what it is. and it is so crazy in this world today.us got to ask god to help you past that and use your higher wisdom to feel like since we don't know for sure what it is or how bad it is, we need to be smart. we need to be safe and not take any unnecessary chances. and so i just think weha - w is right. >> yeah. the world -- >> in everything. >> i know. dolly, w s upside down. anden roiceub o people were apeciative when yid >>well, i'm sure you're g y base to get backlash. when i did that article, it was for the billboard magazine which on i was the cover. when i did the article, it was in the midst of all that. they asked me that, i said absolutely black lives matter. all lives matter, we're all god's children. we're all in this together. >> yep. >> whether we like it or not, we're in it together. we need to try to be supportive and

today, word of positive cases on the vanderbilt football team, this as universities across the syracuseouncing the suspension of 23 students who crowded into the campus quad this week, and notre dame, now with 336 confirmed cases. today, the student newspaper with a stark editorial. "don't make us write obituaries." what's the message here that the paper is trying to get across? >> it's on all of us. if we don't change our actions and our policies now, people might die. people will die. >> reporter: on the race for a vaccine, pfizer announced it may have one ready for regulatory review as early as october, while the head of the c.d.c. warned that the health care system this winter could be overwhelmed. >> the biggest fear i have of course with covid and flu at the same time, is that our hospital capacity could get strained. >> reporter: new york city public schools are still on track for in-person classes starting next month. even governor andrendrew cuomo said today he would have a lot of questions before sending his kids back to school here in the city adding, "it's a risky propositio

jonathan reiner a cnn medical analyst and professor of m medicine george washington university and vanderbilt medical center. dr. reiner, first, your reaction to this. i suppose we should have seen this coming? >> yeah. of course. georgia opened with widespread virus in the community, and actually, when you look at the cdc recommendations for opening schools that were just published about ten days ago, one of the caveats was a caution in communities with widespread virus. so just to give you a sense. georgia has about 4,400 new cases per day. that's about 440 cases per million population. when taiwan opened, their schools in february, they had zero cases per million. no community spread. when japan opened in april, they had about 3.5 cases per million and when germany opened in may, they had 13 cases per million in the community. georgia has 440 cases per million in the community. about 3 to 3.5 time what is it in the u.s. as whole. there's too much virus in the community. it's nice they're closing down the school to disinfect the school, but the virus isn't being transmitted by the school. i

vanderbilt. dr. shaffner, to you. 300,000 deaths by december. that is the projection of this model out of the university of washington. that is a sobering number. >> john, it's a powerful number, it's a profoundly sad number, and we can think that 70,000 of those people could be saved if we would all just wear a mask every day, every time we leave our front doors. it's so important. it's important to think back how many more people could have been saved if we had all been doing that for the last three months. but let's look forward. these are lives we can all save, if we all wear masks. and we need national direction to do that. this virus is not just going to disappear or vanish, we're -- the virus is with us and we're going to have to combat it. and the simple thing that we can all do is wear a mask. please, everyone, wear your mask every day. >> dr. shaffner, you make it sound so easy. and we know, in reality, it is easy to do. but there is pushback that still continues in this country that when we look at where that pushback is coming from, there may not be the national leadership that some people h

university of north carolina, the board of overseers taking the position against removing it, more protest, and eventually the sale is a really interesting issue, money being donated for the removal. this happened at vanderbilt as well. you had a confederate memorial hall. they paid for the direction of the hall. when it was determined by the university to remove it nearly a century later, you pay the people who erected it, who named it, for that privilege. so now we have the irony of hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars being given to united daughters of the confederacy, which areeties promoting often a very partisan view that is believed, is embodied why some of the statuary. -- by some of the statuary. the statuary is divided between real --real -- funeral -- to celebrate the dead -- and how can we make the distinction that many of the statues were not kept in the wake of the war, but put up in the 20th century with rising white nationalism. some of them were very explicitly directed with signage with signage that tried to promote white superiority and connect that to the confederate cause. having these dynamic scholars really going head-to-head and toted toe was really amazing to me and i was quite