look at vanessa williams. she's parlayed that into a terrific career. 20 years ago when we were talking about her and her dirty pictures when she got her title, she was excoriated. i don't think she's so conservative or liberal. the issue was you stood up there and said you're perfect and you weren't so perfect. >> yeah. it has nothing to do with her positions as a conservative against gay marriage? you don't think that has anything to do with it? >> i don't think she's completely victimized because she's conservative. >> if she came out and said i love the idea of gay marriage, i'm very liberal and pro-choice, then she was in a sex tape, nobody would care in. >> she was in a pageant and sex tape, everybody cared. >> she violated the morals clause -- >> honestly the fact, then she turns around and turns on mr. trump which he -- >> mr. trump can take care of himself. >> yeah. i guess -- you're biting the hand that really took good care of you. >> i always say, don't bite the hand that brings you an orgasm. >>>

look at vanessa williams. she's parlayed that into a terrific career. 20 years ago when we were talking about her and her dirty pictures when she got her title, she was excoriated. i don't think she's so conservative or liberal. the issue was you stood up there and said you're perfect and you weren't so perfect. >> yeah. it has nothing to do with her positions as a conservative against gay marriage? you don't think that has anything to do with it? >> i don't think she's completely victimized because she's conservative. >> if she came out and said i love the idea of gay marriage, i'm very liberal and pro choice, then she was in a sex tape, nobody would care in. >> she was in a pageant and sex tape, everybody cared. >> she violated the morals clause -- >> honestly the fact, then she turns around and turns on mr. trump which he -- >> mr. trump can take care of himself. >> yeah. i guess -- you're biting the hand that really took good care of you. >> i always say, don't bite the hand that brings you an orgasm. >>>